Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[miss heny]

Thank you all for your help, I got a couple of breeders to email in the new year

 

[samouw]

Yes, and on the Ameraucana Breeders club website says "The Ameraucanas Breeders club has started the official APA process for the approval of the lavender and splash varieties" The date on the post was May 14,2012 So that has been a few years.

I think what was meant was that they were beginning the gathering of data. There is no official process, as of this writing, to getting either Splash or Lavender (Self blue) approved by APA or ABA. It is a hot topic of conversation and I think 2016 will bring some things to sharper focus.

 

[samouw]

Doesn't it usually take a minimum of 5 years to have a breed/variety accepted into the APA, provided they have enough breeders, attending enough shows, with enough birds that meet the proposed SOP for the breed/variety? Seems like there are a lot of things that need to fall into place in order for it to happen. Sometimes language ties things up too. For example, is there agreement that Lavender Ameraucanas will be called "lavender" or will they be referred to as "self-blue" like some other breeds?

that is correct and the breeders all must have been members of APA for the entire five years.

 

[marchick]

I think what was meant was that they were beginning the gathering of data. There is no official process, as of this writing, to getting either Splash or Lavender (Self blue) approved by APA or ABA. It is a hot topic of conversation and I think 2016 will bring some things to sharper focus.

Oh ok,I was just interested and hadn't heard anymore on it. Thanks

 

[samouw]

For the APA - this is a quick summary of the process. I am not familiar with the ABA process, but would think it would be somewhat similar.

Not less than 5 breeders for not less than 5 years have to sign an affidavit that the new variety/breed is breeding true not less than 50% of the time. Two or more of the new variety, in each of the sexes (pullet, cockerel, hen, cock) have to have been shown for two years at a show with a licensed APA judge. The judge has to then give his opinion, confidentially, to the APA as to quality and uniformity. The sponsoring club has to remit the initial refundable deposit, and the petition is then referred to the Committee on Standards. A qualifying meet is then appointed where not less than 50 birds of the variety/breed must be shown by no less than 5 exhibitors, across all classes of pullet, cockerel, cock, and hen.

 

[samouw]

As to Lavender or Self-Blue, I think there is consensus, at least in the ABC, that the APA will not accept the term "Lavender" and if we want to get it approved, it will have to be as self-blue.

 

[CGilbert]

Hatching out chicks today from my small flock. 2 white Ameraucana hens, 1 white Ameraucana cock, and 1 buff Ameraucana hen.
Of the 3 that have hatched, 2 of them are completely black. My question is, will they still be an Ameraucana (as long as both parents were white). Will they turn out white?

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Babies

Parents

 

[junebuggena]

Hatching out chicks today from my small flock. 2 white Ameraucana hens, 1 white Ameraucana cock, and 1 buff Ameraucana hen.
Of the 3 that have hatched, 2 of them are completely black. My question is, will they still be an Ameraucana (as long as both parents were white). Will they turn out white?

Most white Ameraucana are recessive white. It takes two copies of the gene to produce a white bird. A single gene will result in a black or mostly black bird. If the chicks are from your buff hen, then they will likely be black. If from the white hen, they will feather in white.

 

[CGilbert]

Most white Ameraucana are recessive white. It takes two copies of the gene to produce a white bird. A single gene will result in a black or mostly black bird. If the chicks are from your buff hen, then they will likely be black. If from the white hen, they will feather in white.

Don't suppose hoping for an Ameraucana is a real possibility. So those will be EE's, correct?

 

[Saris]

Don't suppose hoping for an Ameraucana is a real possibility. So those will be EE's, correct?

I think they are judged on what they look like grown. So if they fit the standards for an ameruacana (black or white) then they are one?