Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

Fryemare,
Ameraucanas are suppose to have both genes for muffs and beards and when they only have one they will still be expressed visually. The single gene in Ameraucanas or other birds with muffs and beards can happen to anyone's line. It is a recessive gene. If it pops up you will need to test your birds especially the males and depending on how many hens you have with another bird that has no muffs and beards. I use Orpingtons to test my birds that way I test for muffs and beards and single combs also because they are all recessive genes, they are hidden and not visuable to the eye. If you test your birds and they are all single gene(by having offsprings without any muffs and beards) then you can either cull them all and start over or you can breed them together, cull them after you have young and then when the young are old enough test them all. You will get 25% double genes but you will have to test all the birds to screen them. This is time consuming but this way you know exactly what you are now working with. You will need to test every bird and hatch at least 10 chicks from each bird to give you birds possibly not hiding the recessive traits. This still don;t guarantee you 100% that you got rid of the problem but your chances are slim and if you get a bird without muffs and beards you have to do it all over again. Remember it takes the rooster and hen to make the bird without muffs and beards.

Reyvaughn,
Sorry that you feel you have been duped by someone. It happens a lot to beginners and hope you don;t get discouraged. Think positive you are getting birds from Paul just remember I tell everyone that you only get 1 out 10 chicks that are super. You will get some that are breeder quality. That does not guarantee you will not see the same defect or others. You will just have to progress to eliminate these defects. There are over 12,000 genes in a chicken with 39 pairs of chromosones so one needs to line them up the best one can. I have only sold one bird in 3 years and have culled a large amount. The culls never left my premises other than I gave 50+ birds away either to someone I was positive would not breed them, one person who will knows what she is doing and can pull some very nice birds, and a neighbor who I can monitor. Use to take them to several local auctions but they have plague me by showing up on the internet and selling eggs to the unsuspecting newbie. This is a great hobby and if you need any help feel free to PM. I really don;t like discussing breeding technics unless one is a member of one the clubs I belong to. You can also ask Pips&Peeps she has Wheatens I do not have them and not really got into their color genetics. I try to keep things simple with blacks, whites and Lavenders.
 
I think Jeremy's comment was meant as true kindness. Nothing else.

I too have spent a small (make that large) fortune on eggs from one particular source. I no longer have any birds of that stock, and have been so disheartened, have given up on breeding wheaten ameraucanas completely. Ironically though now do have a couple layers that are stunning AND lay blue eggs very well (5 per week).

Starting with great stock from an established reputable breeder is pretty much essential if you are serious about breeding. IMO if the "breeder" does not show they may not have what they think they have.

We are so fortunate to have stock made available to us by the best of the best dedicated established breeders, and to have new people who also want to join them to produce quality birds.
 
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I think Jeremy's comment was meant as true kindness. Nothing else.

I too have spent a small (make that large) fortune on eggs from one particular source. I no longer have any birds of that stock, and have been so disheartened, have given up on breeding wheaten ameraucanas completely. Ironically though now do have a couple layers that are stunning AND lay blue eggs very well (5 per week).

Starting with great stock from an established reputable breeder is pretty much essential if you are serious about breeding. IMO if the "breeder" does not show they may not have what they think they have.

We are so fortunate to have stock made available to us by the best of the best dedicated established breeders, and to have new people who also want to join them to produce quality birds.
I agree. Breeding is a process. If you don't enjoy the constant ups and downs, and striving for perfection, it is not for you. This is not mean, just the truth. It is not a race either. Some of my most disappointing birds have cost the most, but gave me a place to start. I look forward to where I can get them in 10 years, not 2. In one of my color project in another breed, I bred over 300 chicks last year to keep about 10-12 birds. Lots of money, lots of time, lots of work. Once in a while, I get a word or two of praise from someone whose opinion I value. Last year, I had a breed club president, (not Ameraucanas), show interest in getting a bird from me. This was the best form of praise I can imagine.
 
My 7 year old wants some blue egg laying chickens.

Before she was born, I bought some from a hatchery (cackle hatchery), and they all laid green eggs. A couple of years later I bought more from a different hatchery (ideal poultry) and they all laid green or pinkish brown eggs.

I know this is sacreligious here, but I don't care what color the birds are or if they have beards or ear tuffs or what they look like. I just require a few chickens with a nice temperment that will truely lay a blue egg. Even if I bought like 25 st. run chicks and ended up with 4 blue egg layers, I'd be well satisfied. Any idea which hatchery has a line where I will get at least a few blue egg layers?

Thanks for your help!
 
Go to the Ameraucana Breeder Club site and there is a list of breeders on there and there may be one very near you. If not maybe someone on here is near you. You have no state where you are from on your avatar.
 
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My 7 year old wants some blue egg laying chickens.

Before she was born, I bought some from a hatchery (cackle hatchery), and they all laid green eggs. A couple of years later I bought more from a different hatchery (ideal poultry) and they all laid green or pinkish brown eggs.

I know this is sacreligious here, but I don't care what color the birds are or if they have beards or ear tuffs or what they look like. I just require a few chickens with a nice temperment that will truely lay a blue egg. Even if I bought like 25 st. run chicks and ended up with 4 blue egg layers, I'd be well satisfied. Any idea which hatchery has a line where I will get at least a few blue egg layers?

Thanks for your help!
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My 7 year old wants some blue egg laying chickens. 

Before she was born, I bought some from a hatchery (cackle hatchery), and they all laid green eggs.  A couple of years later I bought more from a different hatchery (ideal poultry) and they all laid green or pinkish brown eggs. 

I know this is sacreligious here, but I don't care what color the birds are or if they have beards or ear tuffs or what they look like.  I just require a few chickens with a nice temperment that will truely lay a blue egg.  Even if I bought like 25 st. run chicks and ended up with 4 blue egg layers, I'd be well satisfied.  Any idea which hatchery has a line where I will get at least a few blue egg layers?

Thanks for your help!
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i will sell you eggs true blue. Or if you are close come spring a dozen or so live chicks. Pm me we can talk.
 
I do not mind breeding for that proverbial perfect bird, but when I spend money on a foundation stock and the person knows I want to breed for showing, you'd think they would mention that they don't.

On another note, these are today's acquisitions:
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I am aware the girls have ticking. The cockerel is 9 months old and his beard is starting to change color. I want to get better pics of some potential problem areas. I never heard anyone mention it, so I will address that topic when I have pics of it. I am not thrilled with the angle of his tail or the white fluff, but he had the nicer comb and clean hackles.
 
I do not mind breeding for that proverbial perfect bird, but when I spend money on a foundation stock and the person knows I want to breed for showing, you'd think they would mention that they don't.

On another note, these are today's acquisitions:



I am aware the girls have ticking. The cockerel is 9 months old and his beard is starting to change color. I want to get better pics of some potential problem areas. I never heard anyone mention it, so I will address that topic when I have pics of it. I am not thrilled with the angle of his tail or the white fluff, but he had the nicer comb and clean hackles.
Will the white fluff at the base of the tail go away on such a young bird?
 

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