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jajeanpierre said:
I've seen this in a Silkie thread on BYC, so I imagine this is on every threat out there.

Not wanting to criticize anyone's effort to help people, but I think it would be much, much more cost effective to buy local chickens from local farmers whose flocks were spared or were not in the typhoon's path.

I am always cautious of donating to individuals and organizations without a track record that is easily verified. The whole charitable-organization industry have more than their share of scams and are often simply get-rich self-employment schemes with little or no donated money going to the cause the money was donated for. I have no idea who Ozexpat is, their integrity or, more importantly, their knowledge and expertise to be able to get get aid from the US to needy people in the Philippines.

Personally, I can't think of a more cost INEFFECTIVE way of getting chickens to needy farmers than sending hatching eggs/chicks from the US to the Philippines. It is problematic in so many ways. If the eggs are sent, it requires incubators and electricity to hatch them, two scarce resources in the poverty-stricken Philippines. Few if any will actually make it to hatch. The shipping costs surrounding getting eggs to Ozexpat and then chicks to the Philippines will be higher than buying chicks from a city in the Philippines outside the disaster zone. The Philippine bred and born chicks will be better suited to the Philippine environment as well.

Every disaster brings an outpouring of goodwill from the "haves" towards the "have nots" but anything I donate, I want to be sure goes to the people who need it, not to the middle man. All reputable charities will publish a figure that shows the percentage of received money that makes it to the needy. Some registered charities send zero funds to the needy that they collect for. Others send upwards of 90% to 95%. It is not hard to get a charity designation for tax purposes.

This is not about Ozexpat's desire to help or integrity, but more about EFFECTIVE delivery of aid. There are reputable organizations where you can donate money to buy things like goats, chickens, ducks or cows (or a share of) to those in need worldwide. This kind of an organization has the skill sets to get the donation into the hands of the needy.

I am never happy when donations made by good people never make it into the hands of those who need it. Katrina and Haiti are recent examples of the discrepancy of the value of donated money and the value of the delivered aid.
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Oz has been doing this for awhile, long before the disaster. He lives in annaheim and has a method (a permit maybe?) of moving the eggs from Ca. to the islands. He does this for the heritage RIR's that he hatches for himself. He is very open and forthcoming about the operation and he is just a good guy. Heifer is a good organization also, and I would like to donate eggs to them as well. I don't feel comfortable just throwing money at a problem, I want to do something more tangible and Oz is an (EFFECTIVE) old hand at accomplishing the feat of getting fertile eggs from Ca to the Philippenes and then distributing trios to those in need. He's been doing this for awhile and isn't just some fly-by-night crazy asking for free eggs . If you're not interested in dontating, that's your perrogative, and nobody is going to judge you no need to get upset. I trust Oz implicitly. He says that trios are going to make it to people who need them, I believe him. That's well placed faith. If you can't put yourself out there to trust those who have earned it, than who can you trust?

Just for the record (since someone
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has complained to flockwatcher about my requests for donations) this is not a further request for donations. I am simply defending the reputation of a friend and seasoned humanitarian and my personal choice to ship eggs to him.
 
Well I just sent in my order to John Blehm yesterday to get 25 Ameracauna chicks this spring :D I've been reading through this thread and couldn't be more excited.
 
I am going to put an order in with Paul Smith soon. I will get 15 chicks, 6 black, 4 blue, and 5 splash. I already have 4 blue pullets, a black cockerel, and a blue cockerel. I had a couple others but they were pet quality and I got rid of them.
 

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