Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[jerryse]

The LF buffs also have orpington in them which is notorious for stubs, yet I haven't had a buff with stubs in all the years I have bred them.

Yes Orpington was the first source of buff color in both bantam and LF .

 

[Miss Ameraucana]

This is all fascinating to me. Between this and the other sites, I have so much to learn

Your not alone!

 

[FowlStuff]

It was done with blue Sumatra onto bantam Ameraucana to get good lacing . Probably 12 or more years ago . He produced a very good line of laced blue bantams . I have never seen stubs in Sumatra .

On another note Buff Brahma was used in buff . I am not sure if that was bantam or large . Also Golden Laced Polish was used in buff to get darker slate legs

I don't think any of this got into the history of the breed .

Jerry,
I've seen stubs start to show up a few to several times over the years after crossbreeding and outcrossing, even though neither of the parent birds had feather legs or stubs.
As I checked my notes I see the problem some are having is "double spurs" from the Sumatra crossbreeding, not stubs, but stubs could be popping up also after a cross like that.
Brahma, Wyandotte and Orpington were used to bring buff color into Ameraucana buff bantams.
Orpington for LF, but as you say Polish was added later. Buff bantams were crossed into LF also and whatever it took, was done.

 

[abbevilleoz]

The LF buffs also have orpington in them which is notorious for stubs, yet I haven't had a buff with stubs in all the years I have bred them.

Ok, that explains the anomaly with my old BO hen. She developed a "stub" after being eight years old. I wander why so late?

 

[samouw]

After 8 years old, I believe that is called "henopause". I know some of us gals grew hair in strange places after we went through the human equivalent.

 

[dstokely]

After 8 years old, I believe that is called "henopause". I know some of us gals grew hair in strange places after we went through the human equivalent.

UH-OH. Here we go!

 

[scflock]

After 8 years old, I believe that is called "henopause". I know some of us gals grew hair in strange places after we went through the human equivalent.

Susan...

 

[abbevilleoz]

After 8 years old, I believe that is called "henopause". I know some of us gals grew hair in strange places after we went through the human equivalent.

I gotta warn my wife she's a good bit younger than me.

 

[samouw]

Susan...

Yes? (What is the emoticon for innocent look?)

 

[MrsBachbach]

Well I'm going to determine who their siblings are (they are all toe punched) and cull those out. I'm hoping no more show up because I don't want to cull this entire batch. I can't justify paying that kind of money again. I'm pretty disheartened right now as I was super excited to have a hobby that could also bring in a little income...

It could be nutritional. Make sure breeders are given supplemental vit/min mix in their water several weeks prior to collecting hatching eggs. Chicks may benefit also from water supplements for first few weeks after hatch. Feeds can sometimes be lacking due to long or improper storage or just not getting put in.

Editing to add that nutritional deficiencies can be responsible for many hatching problems and early chick problems. Death of chick in shell, unabsorbed yolk, curled toe paralysis, splayed legs, parrot beak, star gazers, perosis can all be caused by vitamin/mineral deficiencies of breeder or chick. Something to consider.

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/p..._poultry/vitamin_deficiencies_in_poultry.html

http://www.merckvetmanual.com/mvm/p..._poultry/mineral_deficiencies_in_poultry.html