Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

[Kansaseq]

No worries

 

[Chickanmanfromarkansas]

CityChicker wrote:

....on the topic of "looking like" an Ameraucana though, the accepted color varieties are also clearly stated in the standard. Now, I am not someone that thinks that breeds/varieties should remain stagnant. I love seeing people develop new varieties. It is just humorous to me to see people that get all upset about hatcheries selling EE's as "Ameraucanas" when they themselves are raising non-standard varieties. LOL. Anyway, no offense and I am being jovial about this. I just think that all the easily ruffled feathers of Ameraucana breeders is rather funny, especially from the perspective of someone that has kept the birds since the 1970's. I see a lot of "double standard" these days. My biggest pet peeve though is all these breeders that are selling birds that look like Ameraucanas (often for top dollar, far more than the hatcheries) that don't lay Blue eggs! It literally makes me bust out laughing that people are more concerned about breeding birds that appear to be Ameraucanas than preserving the one factor that makes the breed famous in the first place!

Color standards were only put in place in 1984/85. What were all the other colors before there was a standard for them? Also, they were being bred as Araucanas before Aracauna were standardized?​

 

[Organics North]

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Yes..Great suggestion.. They make it real clear at ABC.... It is real simple. A chicken that looks like one on the above site= AMERAUCANA

Know the blue egg part verses an egg with some green cast in it is a can of worms.. It is my understanding even the most reputable breeders struggle with it.

ON

 

[Organics North]

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Color standards were only put in place in 1984/85. What were all the other colors before there was a standard for them? Also, they were being bred as Araucanas before Aracauna were standardized?

It is my opinion hatcheries have had enough time to stop the deceptive practice of selling EE's or crossbreeds as Ameraucana!
Gee standards in place since 1985... Heck only 25 years to change their marketing material.......?

ON

 

[dak]

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Color standards were only put in place in 1984/85. What were all the other colors before there was a standard for them? Also, they were being bred as Araucanas before Aracauna were standardized?

It is my opinion hatcheries have had enough time to stop the deceptive practice of selling EE's or crossbreeds as Ameraucana!
Gee standards in place since 1985... Heck only 25 years to change their marketing material.......?

ON

I don't understand why the hatcheries don't sell true Ameraucanas. Heck, you can get eggs from various auction sites, and some have rarer breeds.

 

[emvickrey]

With all the information i've read and ws sent to sites to read some more and look at pictures, I have just got to give my opinion of it all. I know it doesn't amount to a hill of beans nor do I intend to offend anybody but..................
To me it seems that the Americauna was produced to look a certain way and only certain colors are acceptable and only the bluest of blue eggs are acceptable. Since this breed was originally laying different colors and somebody decided to breed in certain traits and call it a particular breed, it sounds like a project bird that still isn't quite right.
Personally, I like to sell a carton of eggs that are different colors. I think they look pretty cool. I get blue and olive. I had a hen that laid one that looked a light pink so a carton of all three and I would toss in a white one looked neat. But that is just my preference.
My hens have the same mother and had the same roo. I have 3 that lay a blue egg and they are what is concidered the silver color. Andone is white The other 2 lay an olive egg and they are both what looks to me as buff laced. Not the buff on the site but more laced. The mother and her youngest daughter look almost identical.

Now according to what I read, I can put a certain color Americauna roo with my silvers and white and if I ended up with say a splash then my americauna's produced an EE. Now how crazy is that? I am not at all by any means a professional on this matter but if I put a white roo with my white hen and they produced some other color besides white and a standard color of Americauna then they would be EE's even if it laid a blue egg and had all the other characteristics of the Americauna except the acceptable color.

Although I understand what they are saying, it still sounds absolutely crazy to say that 2 Americauna's can have an EE chick. Thats like saying me and DH could produce a horse.

Anyway. I'm still looking for an Americauna roo. I'm not working on any project to produce the perfect Americauna. I just want my chicks to come out looking like an Americauna even if they are EE's. I want the different colored eggs and to ensure that, I need an Americauna roo.

Ya'all good luck with your hard work of producing this breed. I sincerely mean that. No trash talk at all. Maybe it will happen before I forget what a chicken is.

After all, the project started what 30 or so years ago. I'm not old my memory is already fading.

 

[emvickrey]

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It is my opinion hatcheries have had enough time to stop the deceptive practice of selling EE's or crossbreeds as Ameraucana!
Gee standards in place since 1985... Heck only 25 years to change their marketing material.......?

ON

I don't understand why the hatcheries don't sell true Ameraucanas. Heck, you can get eggs from various auction sites, and some have rarer breeds.

I know what you mean. They advertise Americauna's but are accused of sending EE's. ONe site I read on said that Americaunas are concidered Easter Egger chickens because they lay green, blue, pink and brown eggs. Now that was the original bird and from what i've read on here. The original bird ages ago laid the different colored eggs. It was a breeder taht decided to make them lay only blue eggs and only be certain colors. I sure am glad they don't do that with people. I'm white as snow in the winter but brown as a candy bar in summer.

 

[emvickrey]

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It is my opinion hatcheries have had enough time to stop the deceptive practice of selling EE's or crossbreeds as Ameraucana!
Gee standards in place since 1985... Heck only 25 years to change their marketing material.......?

ON

I don't understand why the hatcheries don't sell true Ameraucanas. Heck, you can get eggs from various auction sites, and some have rarer breeds.

The very first one I got was from the farm store in the spring. I had no idea what she was till somebody from BYC noticed the slate legs and said I had an EE. Well, I had no idea what an EE was so I learned more. Now I learn this about only certain colors are acceptable to be called Americauna's. Reminds me of the dog world where only Dobermans are brown andblack and marked a certain way. If they aren't they are a low quality breed. Well if he can chase away a bad guy or a predator from my critters he's perfect in my book.
My chow mix dog i've had for 14 years is the best dog anybody could ever have as a family member. I had full blooded chows and give me a mixed dog anyday.

 

[josh44]

here's my old blue roo, his pic made it to feathersite.

 

[Chickanmanfromarkansas]

All I'm saying there is no law out there that says that they can't advertise them as Ameraucanas. If you breed two pize white ameracaunas together andthey throw an buff colored one would you sell thatbird as a Ameraucana or and Easter Egger? I know that buff is one of the accepted colors, but the parents weren't buff and did not breed true.
Just saying and stating my opinion. I myself call them Easter Eggers, because of the different colors that they lay. But if I were to develop a certain color from my EE's and showed it and was accepted as an Ameracauna under their standards would it be a true Ameraucana?
I'm not ditching on anyones chickens, I myself like just about all the breeds (notice I said about, there are some I don't really care for).
Anyway just some food for thought.



Edited for spelling, sometimes my fingers go faster than my brain.