Ameraucana thread for posting pictures and discussing our birds

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Since this is an AM thread I didn't mention the also misundertsood araucana's.

The statement that NO hatchery sells pure stock is not a correct statement. Duane Urch, Holderreads and a few others come to mind. There are not many though, but you just can't make that kind of statement if you are interested in promoting facts.

Maybe say: Hardly any hatcheries sell pure bred stock or 98% sell junk or hatcheries suck.........that would be far more helpful. No one knows what she is going to cross her EE's with and if you read any of the other threads on here everyone is crossing EE's with virtually every breed known to man. I hate that too, but I can't see me being able to do anything about it. I have more important things to worry about. Just inform people of their mistakes and if they don't take that in, move on to a more helpful discussion of the breed. I quite trying to change people 40 years ago and my life is much less complicated now.

Walt

I get that...I was just referencing muggs comment "I will have issue, as this seems to be the ONLY misrepresented breed that I've come across"
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I am going with Illia, I don't consider them hatcheries
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A few pictures from this morning...

A Splash Wheaten from my breeding, she was preening so it's not the greatest picture but I really like her tail color.

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One of my Wheatens from John Blehm.

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Another Wheaten, from Paul Smith's line though- her tail angle normally is not that high, a squirrel in the trees had just spooked her.
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Luanne, this girl is from you. I have 3 pullets from your line that I just love. This girl is the "medium" colored one, her name is Bear. I have another pullet that is much paler, she's Honker and the third is very dark with more black markings throughout her hackles and wing feathers.

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This is the darker wheat colored girl.

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A pretty Blue Wheaten.

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The same Splash Wheaten pictured in the beginning. I really like her color, her head and hackles have a good deep wheat color IMO.

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My little bebes are all growing up. Here's a few photos of some of my favorites so far. The roosters are easily noticeable but my hens haven't started filling out well yet. Like after they molted to get adult feathers they've just sort of lagged behind a little. Some hens are even still missing neck feathers.

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Out of 12 birds that hatched, I have 3 lavender roosters, 2 black roosters, 4 lavender hens and 3 black hens. The blacks are all split lavender.
 
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The thing that gets me is the fact that they came from a hatchery, and she believes they are show chickens. That is like trying to show a dog that came from Petsmart. I am not saying that you can't get a show quailty bird from a hatchery but it is very unlikely. I wish she had kept an open mind and listened to the people on here that want to help her and her son succed.

WOW!!! Just wow! The "blue wheaten" cockerel may have slate legs, but his coloring is WRONG. The "blue wheaten" hen has green legs in addition to her color being wrong and type...ugh...just look to her posterior. And the "wheaten" roo has wattles, hardly any beard, and what's with the ticking?

Am I being harsh...in this case...YOU BET! I heard Gordon Ramsey say recently that people learn best when they are criticized harshley, this is SO true.

Don't paint yourself in a corner by being on the side of right and not being open to learning as MUCH as you can about what you have. We all have a passion for this breed and it does nothing for us if we don't learn from one another and take the advice from people who have nothing better than the breed's interest at heart.

Be very careful about being critical of color that you are seeing on a monitor. NO ONES monitors will show the same color unless it has been calibrated at least once a day to a Pantone program or some other color correcting program. One of my duties at the university was to be sure that all the graphics computers were properly calibrated to show color accurately. They all show color differently unless calibrated daily. The hen has slate legs on my computer and the posterior can look like that for many reasons....note that the right foot is much more forward than the left foot as a for instance. If the hen has green legs it should be DQ'd, but I don't think is has green legs.
Again they are not perfect by any means, but I don't think they fall into the EE class and I don't think any of those bantams would be DQ'd for color or type. That could change if I saw them in person. Online pics can be very deceiving.

What about the width of tail feather and the lack of tail break in the hen? I doubt that an EE would have those qualities. I would almost bet that those bantams came from a breeder and not a hatchery.

Walt
 
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Well Urch is a hatchery and has been for many, many years. Duane actually breeds the birds to the SOP, but he is still a hatchery. I think he even calls himself a hatchery.

All of Holderreads birds are good quality and the "special birds" are show champs and you pay plenty for them and you should......they are worth the price.

Just saying folks...if you make statements, make sure they are correct cuz you are requiring it of the other posters.

Walt
 

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