Ameraucauna Vrs Easter Egger! Such a "Raw Nerve" with some folks!

[acid_chipmunk]

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You can tell they aren't tufts. Once you see tufts on a bird, you can't mistake them for anything else.


I understand Ameraucana breeders frustration with people calling birds by the wrong names, but really, if you can't correct them nicely, don't bother to say anything. I have seen numerous people on here be down right rude to new people trying to figure things out. There will always be more threads to comment on. And, I not saying not to correct them, but please do it nicely!

 

[TK Poultry]

I can see the first time being nice but some people persistantly call them by the wrong name and are scamming people. I find that irritating and I bet I'm rude too.

 

[HennyPenny2]

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At least they tell someone it is an Easter Egger, so knowledgable people don't get ripped off.

So many people will say Araucana cross, or half Araucana. . . . When it's actually "half Easter Egger," or, simply an Easter Egger.

That also makes people not realize that their "half Araucana" is VERY unlikely to still have blue or green eggs, and its offspring even less likely, being that the Easter Egger in there already has little blue left.

That is interesting because I have 2 EE's and they both lay very blue eggs. I was actually hoping one would lay green but both lay blue blue eggs.

 

[cashdl]

All my EE's lay very blue eggs except one who lays a brown egg.

My araucana's lay blue eggs and green eggs. Gotta work on the egg color. LOL! But thats next years issue. This year is tufts and color.


Lanae

 

[coq au vin]

Sometimes, it gets just plain aggravating to see "Easter Eggers" constantly dismissed as "mutt chickens with the blue egg gene". If you really just want to strictly talk about "mutt-chickens-which-carry-the-blue-egg-gene", then "Easter Egger" perhaps is an appropriate term.

However, most of what you people are dismissing as "Easter Eggers" are really a beautiful race called the Quechua. Have you noticed that there is a predominant type to them? The wild-type color patterns and gamey build that they have? This is because they are Quechua, or perhaps more accurately, "World Fair Quechua" (having been mixed with a little more Eurasian blood for this-and-that purpose). This is the case with the Quechua in S. America as well (only slightly less diluted with Eurasian blood), and only a little more so with the ones in this region.

IMHO, the proper name for most EEs should actually be Quechua, until amateurs start further mixing them with Leghorns, RIR, etc. and really getting away from the Quechua type. Then, Easter Egger is a more appropriate name because then you really are talking about a dirty mutt.

Here is one of my Quechua...just don't call her an Easter Egger...her pea comb is compact and tight, no white earlobes, no green eggs, broody, she could just as well be running around the streets of Argentina or Bolivia...

 

[LuvMyPeeps7]

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They look like blue juvenile ameraucanas to me. Where did you get them? Even blue EEs can be hard to come by(unless you know or are a breeder with splash birds)- never seen a solid blue hatchery one, but I'm sure they're out there somewhere.
Enjoy your lovely birds- hope you see some blue eggs in the coming months!

Got them from a BYC breeder, she said they were Blue Ameracaunas do not remember about the splash part but I think she did say something about them. No matter what they are there my babies and I love them. Thanks guys for the info.

 

[BarnGoddess01]

Not meaning to stir up trouble but calling something a "mutt" doesn't have to be an insult. All "mutt" really means is that it isn't a "pure" breed. As soon as one breed is crossed with another it is no longer pure. It has become a "mutt". So a Quechua crossed with anything that is not Quechua is not producing a Quechua even though one of its parents may be or is Quechua. They may be descended from Quechuas but they aren't technically Quechuas anymore. And apparently a Wheaten Ameraucana crossed with anything other than a Wheaten Ameraucana is no longer Ameraucana - even if both parents ARE Ameraucana as is the case with my Easter Eggers. The Ameraucana Breed Society is SO particular that even colour matters. Which is as it should be when one is attempting to define a breed standard.

I think "Easter Egger" is the perfect compromise to describe what IS a mutt chicken that comes from at least one parent that is supposed to lay green/blue eggs. At least it sounds much classier than "mutt" or hybrid!

 

[coq au vin]

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1. The Quechua is not a "breed" per se, more of a race.

2. I'm not talking about crossing a Quechua with something else and calling it a Quechua, I'm talking about the dilution of blood that has been occurring with them for hundreds of years, which is what created the Quechua in the first place from the little native fowl that existed previously in the region. The basic underlying chicken itself is still a Quechua. The mutts resulting from an immediate cross, well those are just mutts, or "Easter Eggers". Keep breeding for Quechua characteristics and guess what you get, a Quechua. A bird with a rich and significant cultural history.

3. This slightly more diluted Quechua was introduced at one of the World Fairs, I don't know which year, as the "World Fair Quechua" aka Ameraucana (American Araucana). It was a few years later that all the confusion over the name(s) was manufactured.

 

[coq au vin]

One more thing I've always been astounded by is that the Ameraucana people should have known the fight they would be in for when they decided to take the "World Fair Quechua" aka Ameraucana, and twist the definition around to suit only their choice of colors. What were they thinking? That it would be a smooth and easy transition?

 

[tuesdays chicks]

I lol at at everyone. I would really love some blue egg layer sometime, and it would be ok if it were a ee. My concern is people are breeding these birds to see what comes out in the mix yea fine I'm sure its fun .I just hope there are enough people breeding true to keep the blue egg gene strong