American serama thread!

[nchls school]

Sizzle is a feather type, not a distinct breed. I'm not sure what sort of development has been done with them, but I've always been told breeding two sizzles together was a bad thing to do, and two sizzle genes made a very ugly bird with possible other issues. So I don't know how that could be developed into healthy true to type birds with strong feathers. 

I've never kept or bred sizzles so all I have is hear say. I might be totally wrong about breeding them, but I know I'm not wrong on calling it a feather type.

Again thank you. It seems obvious that these terms are vague and hold different meaning depending on the person.

 

[Fluffyserama]

Again thank you. It seems obvious that these terms are vague and hold different meaning depending on the person.

I should also thank you. I've been trying to up my post # to the point where I can post pictures, but I refuse to post on things that I feel like I have nothing to input.

People get very sensitive about the ways others describe their chickens, especially if there is a goal they have been breeding towards.
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

The meaning of words is oftentimes in the ears of the listener.

 

[nchls school]

I should also thank you. I've been trying to up my post # to the point where I can post pictures, but I refuse to post on things that I feel like I have nothing to input.

People get very sensitive about the ways others describe their chickens, especially if there is a goal they have been breeding towards.
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

The meaning of words is oftentimes in the ears of the listener.

Yes, I see that over and over; getting upset over words.

My curiousity over the word sizzle stems from my future breeding progarm. I've a beautiful frizzle serama rooster and two young silkied serama pullets that will form a breeding trio. I'm hoping the results will be some "sizzle" silkied frizzle serama offspring.

I would be most interested in hearing about your birds. I keep my flock small; 17 serama and some chicks and 3 Japanese bantams. I was not aware that a person needed a certain number of posts to be able to post pictures.

 

[froggiesheins]

On another thread I am told that my understanding is wrong. I have always thought that sizzle, frizzle, frazzle, and silkied were feather types and not breeds; each feather type occurring in many breeds-if not all breeds.

Can someone on this thread verify or explain this to me?

And if a sizzle is a breed what are silkied serama that are frizzled called called?

These feather type-breed names are confusing. Frizzle and silkied are feather types occurring in many breeds. Frazzle has two frizzle parents of any breed. Right?

I thought sizzle was any breed that has silkied-frizzles feathers???????

To my knowledge (from 5 years of showing seramas) they are feather types, still a serama but different feather types. Each breed has their own types / strains/ feather variety and we are only talking seramas here correct?

 

[Fluffyserama]

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I would be most interested in hearing about your birds. I keep my flock small; 17 serama and some chicks and 3 Japanese bantams. I was not aware that a person needed a certain number of posts to be able to post pictures.

I didn't know about the picture restrictions until I tried to upload one in another post. Apparently you have to post somewhere around 20-30 times before they let you do pictures.

I hatched my serama's back in 2009, but had to give up my flock when my husband got into grad school. At the time I had 2 black silkie hens, 2 EE hens, 2 australorp hens, and 19 serama.

I had one silkied serama rooster and a couple serama hens I tried to keep by giving to my parents, but raccoons pulled them through the chicken wire two weeks after the transfer.

So here I am 5 years later finally in a place where I can try to start a flock again.
This time around I'm going to stick with the little guys. Serama and bantam EE's. Although it was super funny watching the serama roosters with the big australorp girls.

 

[nchls school]

To my knowledge (from 5 years of showing seramas) they are feather types, still a serama but different feather types. Each breed has their own types / strains/ feather variety and we are only talking seramas here correct?

The term most in question is sizzle; is it a breed in development or a feather type or both. Thank you for your reply. I'm hoping to get sizzle-silkied frizzle serama from a pairing of frizzled serama with silkied serama.

 

[nchls school]

I didn't know about the picture restrictions until I tried to upload one in another post. Apparently you have to post somewhere around 20-30 times before they let you do pictures.

I hatched my serama's back in 2009, but had to give up my flock when my husband got into grad school. At the time I had 2 black silkie hens, 2 EE hens, 2 australorp hens, and 19 serama.

I had one silkied serama rooster and a couple serama hens I tried to keep by giving to my parents, but raccoons pulled them through the chicken wire two weeks after the transfer.

So here I am 5 years later finally in a place where I can try to start a flock again.
This time around I'm going to stick with the little guys. Serama and bantam EE's. Although it was super funny watching the serama roosters with the big australorp girls.

My wife started me in serama with a birthday present last year of 20 serama hatching eggs. A little over a year later I am looking forward to a fourth generation in a few months. Mine are pet quality but I am trying to improve each generation through careful selection of breeding stock. So far I have had good luck in positive progress.

What kind of serama are you interested in? Will you be getting some soon?

 

[Fluffyserama]

So I did a quick internet search. It seems that there is a sizzle breed listed as being in development. I couldn't find much info, but it appears to be standard sized.

I know the term sizzle as a descriptive feather type has been around awhile. Perhaps referring to your birds as sizzled serama will help clarify things for people.


Right now I have 18 silkied serama eggs in the incubator along with some Bantam EE and banty EE X serama eggs.

I'm trying for a serama type bird that lays green eggs. I'm never going to show, so I'm mainly focused on producing a small healthy bird with good personality.

 

[froggiesheins]

The term most in question is sizzle; is it a breed in development or a feather type or both. Thank you for your reply. I'm hoping to get sizzle-silkied frizzle serama from a pairing of frizzled serama with silkied serama.

OK gotcha now>>>> SIZZLE is an OOPS an anomoly of accidental (or intentional) breeding of two frizzles together. It results in VERY brittle feathers and other genetic problems. It is NOT a good thing at all and should be avoided. Hope that helps

 

[Fluffyserama]

OK gotcha now>>>> SIZZLE is an OOPS an anomoly of accidental (or intentional) breeding of two frizzles together. It results in VERY brittle feathers and other genetic problems. It is NOT a good thing at all and should be avoided. Hope that helps

I thought that was a frazzled???

Sizzled has one dominant frizzle gene as well as two recessives for silkie featheration.

At least that was my understanding