American serama thread!

[mauigirl]

My lovely A class roo, Charles! Weighing in at 9oz.

small is not the only reason to breed, can you post more of him in different poses?

 

[skyl3r]

Seem I have a lot of fun color to play with ....

Ken,
I really love this roo (he looks so regal to me). He is really cool looking and I love seeing him online! I know that you have some amazing chickens and you have a lot of fun breeding and working with the different color genetics. I must admit that I have been lurking and watching the different conflicts about the Mala/American Serama. In my honest opinion (i stress opinion), I do not prefer the extreme look of the birds that look deformed. I like the posture of the birds you currently have and I would hate to see that bizarre appearance of some of the other birds I have seen online. There is something really odd about the shape of the extreme Malay, where the spine does not look correct to me. It appears that the bird is not structurally sound (although I know you say that they breed with no problems). I am not referring to ANY of your birds, but I think I prefer the current stock you have. I love the natural curves and the wonderful posture. I do not think I would have gotten into serums and fallen in love with them, if they had the extreme type.

Also, Ken, I think you have so much experience and contributions to the Serama community. You have tons of knowledge and ideas of colors and breeding, and even the history. I think sometimes, you speak bluntly and it is taken incorrectly/misunderstood. Ken has helped me personally try and treat an illness in one of my chicks and even took time to provide me to with a video to vaccinating chicks which was very helpful.

I hope that you keep continuing to breed these amazing chickens the way that you already do!
Skyler Salmasi

 

[mauigirl]

nice post skylar - we newbies are so fortunate to have some 'old timers o/t' here to guide us through the maze of serama. the breed would not be where it is if not for breeders like Ken...

We the next generation of breeders have a huge resposibility in keeping the breed alive, thriving and improving - we are their (o/t) legacy. When I teach a class (in my specialty) I always tell my students that if they come to class with their cups full I have nothing to add, their knowledgeth spills over, but if they come to class with cup 1/2 empty I can help to fill it up. The o/t must be not only willing to share but have students willing to hear (not just listen) and follow their advice.

 

[mauigirl]

In Peace 'white princess' came home from work and my very first very old pure white serama had gone to serama heaven, she didnt look good this morning I kinda had a feeling. She was one of the last eggs that Jerry originally sent to Casey, way back...

Prince (my main wheaton roo) adopted her and took care of her for the last 3 years,she had first dibs on all bugs, worms and feed. This morning when i put the food and water right next to her he scolded me and did the chicken dance, she limped and moved slow so he made sure she had space between her lil body and big feet.

 

[diornisextant]

Delia, one of my A class hens. Weighs 8oz.


Just to hop on the wheaton train! Dove, an A class hen. Weighs 8oz.

I always thought my ptarmigan looks like a dove I really like Delia!

 

[diornisextant]

nice post skylar - we newbies are so fortunate to have some 'old timers o/t' here to guide us through the maze of serama. the breed would not be where it is if not for breeders like Ken, Brady and Jerry and others

We the next generation of breeders have a huge resposibility in keeping the breed alive, thriving and improving - we are their (o/t) legacy. When I teach a class (in my specialty) I always tell my students that if they come to class with their cups full I have nothing to add, their knowledgeth spills over, but if they come to class with cup 1/2 empty I can help to fill it up. The o/t must be not only willing to share but have students willing to hear (not just listen) and follow their advice.

and the OT's have a responsibility to the Newbs to be considerate. I bred budgies for many years, still have some, I found the arrogance and competitive nature of the breeders very off putting . I tried several times to join the societies and several times left due to the lack of willingness to help less experienced people, share quality stock(and I'm talking about giving up defective animals to newbs instead of choosing surplus quality producers to help them develop),or a critical without constructive attitude, laughing at an entry rather than pointing out the good and bad. I have been trying for years by contacting each and every known breeder of crested budgies to obtain just one single visual crested bird to build a line on and even though they have them and in one case colony breed them no one will bother to send me one . There are very few breeders and fewer interested in the variety so it would seem that helping one that is would be a priority. I don't get it . I'm not asking for free . This is what riles folks when they start a new association. In this day and age when there are more than enough pressures from AR groups to take the right to breed animals away from all you would think that people so invested in doing so would jump at the chance to bring someone new into the fold to help in the fight to retain rights to our hobby and interests.
Ken you have very nice birds.

 

[diornisextant]

Here's those chicks I was speaking of before comments? gender guesses?

 

[mauigirl]

Here's those chicks I was speaking of before comments? gender guesses?

post picts from front view, my chicken sexer granddaughter is pretty good with the right picts (she said put them on a table all together) ps how did you load images i have such a hard time

 

[tinychicky]

post picts from front view, my chicken sexer granddaughter is pretty good with the right picts (she said put them on a table all together) ps how did you load images i have such a hard time

Are they booted? I see foot feathers! The one in the middle is so pretty The first is a cockerel and the other two are pullets as far as I can tell (I'm usually pretty good at guessing chick genders)!

 

[diornisextant]

My luck it's the other way around and I have expected this since they dried out and started running about. I hope there are tow hens but the dark color and personality of the "boys" is pretty telling to my gut. One has motling around his neck so i am hoping for a mille fleure type coloring . I might be able to live with two roosters in the house , maybe then one would wake me with the alarm, stupid lazy chainsaw!

They may be booted or just have stray feathers . Their mom has one feather on one foot and used to have one on the other foot but it wasn't very feathery so i thought she had a stick jammed under a scale, I know a little bit more now "/ Two of the three have fairly dense bilateral even feathering on the outside of the legs . I didn't really want this feature but perhaps it is what i will be working with anyway. i have no idea about the dad's back ground and I've learned not to contradict fate, especially as difficult as it is to find what i want around here on my budget.