and THIS is how they treat our veterans?!?!

[lovesduckies]

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seismic wonder2 wrote...

Oh, by the way. (for the nay sayers out there)
I'm active duty, have been for 20 years and plan to stay on duty until they FORCE me out. I'm just saying that there are Vets the NEED HELP and either can't or don't get it because the system is clogged with (relatively) healthy people milking the system.
Any REAL military person embraces the "HONOR-COURAGE-COMMITMENT" way of life will stand aside and DEMAND "TAKE MY BUDDY FIRST DOC, HE'S HURT WORSE THAN ME!" I'm healthy, I don't need help, Take the guy that's all messed up first give him MY 10% that I'll get for my injuries...

I get quite a bit for serving my country. One thing is called Tuition Assistance. It pays a portion of any college degrees I want to take. I get (almost) free medical and dental. When I choose to retire, that medical will cost around $475. A YEAR! I know people paying $600. a MONTH for medical insurance. I get to wear my uniform home to Alabama to visit my folks and wave to people, shake hands, people try to pay my tabs at restaurants(I refuse and ask them to donate to VFW or FRA). I have access to job hunting assistance, Family counseling, every form of help immaginable, and sadly, From time to time I get the ultimate privlage and honor to honor a fallen comerade at arms by dressing in my finest uniform and proudly rendering a final salute- folding the flag under which he/she served- and presenting it to their loved ones.

I've seen grown men break down a cry, I've seen a 96lb women pick up a 200lb sailor and carry him to safety, I've been helpless at my duty station as a chopper goes over the side with all on board lost, and yes, in fact I've seen useless, lazy, wastes of skin.

Don't presume to tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. You know NOTHING about me. end quote

No one has the right to milk the system, I do not care who they are. In the long run we end up paying for these people, both private and military.

Thats your opinion. Its okay.. mine is just different than yours.

i think redhen and i see eye to eye on this.. but we are all entitled to our own opinions. we are just saying we'd RATHER have vets milk the system then some lazy person who is capable of work but doesn't because they'd rather sit around and do drugs and make children OR the people who come here illegally and do NOTHING for the country in which they milk off of. IF anyone is going to milk to government it should be the vets. they deserve it. they put their lives on the line for US and the least we can do is try to help them out.

 

[HarlansHollowFarms]

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Thats your opinion. Its okay.. mine is just different than yours.

i think redhen and i see eye to eye on this.. but we are all entitled to our own opinions. we are just saying we'd RATHER have vets milk the system then some lazy person who is capable of work but doesn't because they'd rather sit around and do drugs and make children OR the people who come here illegally and do NOTHING for the country in which they milk off of. IF anyone is going to milk to government it should be the vets. they deserve it. they put their lives on the line for US and the least we can do is try to help them out.

Yes, everyone has a right to their opinion, and ours differ.
I just do not see the difference in say, a vet who served his/hers 3-5years stateside having lots of children, perfectly healthy to work for a living, milking us and the government, as oppsoe to someone else who has lots of children, perfectly healthy to work for a living, milking us and the government. Lazy is lazy and fraud is fraud....you are not above it no matter who you are or what you have done in your lifetime.

 

[dntd]

The ones being denied have alot of health issues, living with cronic pain or mental illness is hard. The families also are greatly effected.My GP had a mental illness caused by going to war. When it came time to take him to a home his house showed signs that the war itself cause the issues( building a bunker, having pills ready to kill himself in the bunker, sealing the windows..) he later ended up in a home and the nurses lost him, he ended up hiding under a bed because he was sure the hosptal was going to get bombed.My grandma couldn't live with him so even though they still loved each other his illness caused her to leave so that she could raise her kids in a stable home. He didn't get disability as he worked up until retirement but I think in these case the government should be held liable!

 

[cackle]

I did not read all the post but I happened to be listening to NPR on the way home today and it was on Traumatic Brain Injuries and military. I hope this link works.


http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127542820

 

[WingingIt]

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Oh. I'm sorry, I misunderstood the first post. I didn't realize it was 7 years between when he first got out and getting the 100% rating and then having it dropped a month later. I still think changing anything after a month is ridiculous, though. I'm thinking there ought to be a lot of proof in his file arleady because that severance check would have been based on testing and predictions for his future earnings potential. I know a guy who actually gets 100%, traumatic brain injury, they didn't even try to fight him for less than 100%, so that tells you how bad it was. It's still not enough for them (him, wife, two kids) to live off of and they don't spend money on expensive stuff. They used the severance (and he got a large one) to pay off their vehicle and buy a house, putting enough down that they could easily make the payments. The rest was invested to help with future needs. They are from the same area so they bought there and the only way they are making it work as well as they are is that their children are in school, aides/caretakers are with the DH during the day and both of their Mom's take turns watching the children between when school gets out and Mom gets home from work. Great family, great folks, it totally sucks.

 

[lovesduckies]

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i think redhen and i see eye to eye on this.. but we are all entitled to our own opinions. we are just saying we'd RATHER have vets milk the system then some lazy person who is capable of work but doesn't because they'd rather sit around and do drugs and make children OR the people who come here illegally and do NOTHING for the country in which they milk off of. IF anyone is going to milk to government it should be the vets. they deserve it. they put their lives on the line for US and the least we can do is try to help them out.

Yes, everyone has a right to their opinion, and ours differ.
I just do not see the difference in say, a vet who served his/hers 3-5years stateside having lots of children, perfectly healthy to work for a living, milking us and the government, as oppsoe to someone else who has lots of children, perfectly healthy to work for a living, milking us and the government. Lazy is lazy and fraud is fraud....you are not above it no matter who you are or what you have done in your lifetime.

we aren't talking about able bodied and mentally stable vets. we are talking about wounded, missing limbs, aren't able to support themselves, and having mental issues vets.