Any know the color genetics of the Redcap?

Discussion in 'General breed discussions & FAQ' started by Redcap Farm, Mar 3, 2011.

  1. Redcap Farm

    Redcap Farm Derbyshire Redcap Fowl

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    I went to the Chicken Calculator website and noticed the Redcap is not in the chart. Can anyone please fill in the color genes below in what the Redcap breed would have?

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    E Extension of black

    Co Columbia

    Db Darkbrown

    Pg Pattern gene

    Ml Melanotic

    Cha Charcoal

    Mh Mahogany

    Di Dilute

    Ig Inhibitor of Gold

    Cb Champagneblond

    S Silver

    B Barring

    Choc Chocolate

    I Dom. White

    Bl Blue

    Mo Mottling

    C Rec. White

    Lav Lavender
     
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  2. Illia

    Illia Crazy for Colors

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    There are a LOT of colors that aren't in the "examples" chart. [​IMG]


    From the looks of it, but with no actual knowledge, I'm guessing they're partridge based ( e^b/e^b) The next guess, but with even less assurance, is that they have melanizers ( Ml/Ml ) and beyond that I'm really not sure. . . They strike my curiosity in that a properly colored female should basically be "spangled" like a very poorly laced hatchery bird, except evenly throughout the body like a Hamburg, while males are colored just as a Partridge would be. Yet, partridges have the lacing genes, while adding melanizers would make them double laced. Removing the laced gene. . . I don't know what you'd get, really, but it may just be that. Adding columbian to (possibly?) even out the females' color, like with normally laced birds, would wreck the male's color.
     
  3. Redcap Farm

    Redcap Farm Derbyshire Redcap Fowl

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    Thank You Illia for the information. [​IMG]
     
  4. Henk69

    Henk69 Songster

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    I would like to see those hens.

    Definitely Mh in there.
     
  5. Redcap Farm

    Redcap Farm Derbyshire Redcap Fowl

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    Here is a picture of the male and female Redcaps. Not my birds but wish they was mine.
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  6. tadkerson

    tadkerson Songster

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    brown eb/eb or birchen ER/ER, gold s+/s+ or s+/_w, dark brown, melanotic and pattern are linked Db-Ml-Pg/Db-Ml-Pg, rose comb R/R or R/r with rough surface He+/He+, white egg shell o+/o+, white skin W+/W+, dermal melanin id+/id+ or id+/_w

    Red caps have a modified spangle in the shape of a half moon- the spangle is modified- how? I do not know- no research on the bird (that I have found at this time), could be a different restrictor or a modified dark brown.


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  7. blackdotte

    blackdotte Songster

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    They are
    eWh Wheaten, gold s+/s+ or s+/_w, mahogany,melanotic and pattern gene , rose comb R/R or R/r with rough surface He+/He+, white egg shell o+/o+, white skin W+/W+, dermal melanin id+/id+ or id+/_w
    David
     
  8. tadkerson

    tadkerson Songster

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    Quote:What is your reasoning for wheaten at the E locus and why no restrictor?

    Tim
     
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  9. Redcap Farm

    Redcap Farm Derbyshire Redcap Fowl

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    I thought they may have the Wheaten gene in them. The chicks being a light color then turning so dark as adults.


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  10. Henk69

    Henk69 Songster

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    The wheaten would explain the hen's restricted (groundcolored) body. The male is blackbreasted (not restricted).
     

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