Any Midnight Majesty Marans Egg Pictures?

Sooo, I’ve been thinking. MMMs are an F1 sex-link hybrid between BC Marans and Barred Rock, right? But I heard somewhere that the really dark-dark brown egg genes are mostly recessive.

So, you generally wouldn’t see those genes expressed in a first generation hybrid, even if your girls were carrying them, right? You’d have to back-cross to BCM or cross two F1 hybrids to see the dark-chocolate egg gene turn up in the next generation- but that loses the sex-link because the barring has to come from the hen side for that to work, iirc.

So, selling a first-gen Marans cross is a little misleading, because people hear “Marans” and think “dark eggs,” but that’s not probably what they’re going to get without some back-crossing in the breeding, right?

… Is there anyone doing a project like that? Back-crossing F1 MMMs to get sex-linked dark egg layers- though it’d have to be, what, every other generation, wouldn’t it, because of the barring swapping sides from the sex-link cross. How would one go about that?

(I’m very new to the topic of chicken breeding. There are so many genetic puzzles I just want to poke with a stick.)

And m France they are breeding a hybrid called a Noirans, not sure about sex-linked or autosexing/feather sexing.

But Hendrix Genetics is working with this project and supply the birds here in Canada. Not sure about in the US.

https://layinghens.hendrix-genetics.com/en/our-brands/special-layer-breeds/noirans/

They lay very dark eggs.

I have four young pullets about 13 weeks old, they should be laying in the New Year.

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Giselle
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I think…. Likely have them mixed up 😉👍
 
Unfortunately, I know nothing about chicken breeding. I definitely purchased my MMM based off the name and the description on Hoover's website which says, "This breed will lay dark brown eggs and will lay a lot of them! You will truly enjoy this breed in your backyard flock and its dark eggs in your egg carton! These hybrids perform well in many different climates. Purpose: Egg Layer Production: 250 Large Dark Brown Eggs." My MMM is a beautiful and friendly bird. I'm happy to have her, but it does sound like Hoover's need to change the description of their egg color if they are going to lay tan eggs.
 
Our midnight marans laid fairly dark eggs, it's the first one on the second row. (RIP Duchess).
 

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That's definitely the color I was expecting. Very pretty color for a hatchery, I think.
Thanks! I have a young Wheaton marans (Meyer's) that just started laying, her eggs aren't quite as dark but still a nice rich color. She's laid about about a half dozen so far, the color has been pretty consistent.
 

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Thanks! I have a young Wheaton marans (Meyer's) that just started laying, her eggs aren't quite as dark but still a nice rich color. She's laid about about a half dozen so far, the color has been pretty consistent.
Wow those are beautiful, I am hoping my Noirans lay eggs that dark.
 
Unfortunately, I know nothing about chicken breeding. I definitely purchased my MMM based off the name and the description on Hoover's website which says, "This breed will lay dark brown eggs and will lay a lot of them! You will truly enjoy this breed in your backyard flock and its dark eggs in your egg carton! These hybrids perform well in many different climates. Purpose: Egg Layer Production: 250 Large Dark Brown Eggs." My MMM is a beautiful and friendly bird. I'm happy to have her, but it does sound like Hoover's need to change the description of their egg color if they are going to lay tan eggs.

Well, since other people are posting pics now and the eggs are pretty dark, it’s entirely possible that I’m wrong in one or more ways. Like, maybe either MMMs aren’t all F1 crosses, or That Thing I Read Somewhere was less than accurate. I littered that post with question marks for a reason, and was a little alarmed when someone marked it as “informative.”

Just to reiterate so everyone knows, I am very new to learning about chicken breeding, and my knowledge base consists almost entirely of Stuff I Read Somewhere But Can’t Quite Remember Where.

That said, if other people are getting acceptably dark eggs from their MMMs… I’m pretty sure I’ve read multiple sources that say brown egg coloration is controlled by more than one gene, so maybe it’s just the really dark, almost purple-y black shades that are more recessive, and not all the brown-egg genes? Meaning if Hoover’s really is back-crossing these guys, then lighter shelled genes could still be hiding out as recessives, and they’d still throw the occasional light layer like your girl.

Disclaimer: This is all theoretical logic puzzle to me! I’m playing with Punnet squares in my head.

(Unrelated, I was rather delighted to find out that the guy who invented the Punnet square also invented Cream Legbars. New hyperfixation plus high-school biology puzzles make brain go brrr. 😁)

Back on the original topic, our MMM still doesn’t appear to be laying yet. We have started getting some big, pretty, dark brown eggs, but I’ve confirmed they’re from Isa (our ISA Brown), not Blackberry. The suspense is. Suspenseful. Yes. Pics when it happens. 😊
 
Got 3 eggs today, 2 of which I can recognize as from our girls who were already laying, and the third is probably (but not certainly) from Blackberry (our MMM.)

It looks like she’s also laying light tan:

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Newest, probably-Blackberry egg on the top, nearest Blackberry in the background. The other two are Isa’s (dark brown egg, from the golden brown hen on the left) and May’s (lightest tan egg, blue barred hen on the top right.)

Of the other two who’re close to laying, neither have been squatting or showing any interest in the nesting boxes, and one is a Cream Legbar who should be laying a blue egg.

So, if nothing else, @CountryLife4Me, you’re not alone. She’s a super sweet bird, though!

Hey, we know they both came from Hoover’s. Maybe they’re sisters?
 
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