Any specialists on mites? Long post. Apologies.

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Hi everyone- this is a bit long, sorry- a little down today because my only hen, who I have had for 10 1/2 years, died. I am feeling very guilty and am looking for info from anyone very knowledgeable about mites.

Her name was Dot. She was an Appenzeller hen so she had a fluffy "hat". She has always had issues with mites in her "hat". I am assuming they were mites. They were very tiny and not lice. She rarely seemed to be able to be 100% rid of them there though she was free of them on her body. We used to use DE and a louse/mite powder - we would sprinkle it in the hat and gently rub it in. That usually had a good effect for awhile but eventually they would come back.

I tried several times to wash the hat and really see if I could completely sort the problem but she was so terribly stressed by the washing that I thought she would die so it was not something I could do regularly. I always checked her for mites on her body and never found any.

For quite a long while she has been unwell but as she was so old and I could find nothing obviously wrong with her I assumed it was down to her age. Her once red face became pale too.

Recently she seemed to be getting worse. I worked the powder into the hat and checked her over thinking that her pale face meant she could have mites or even worms. I found some mites around her vent, not a lot but they were there. I sprinkled the powder around the area and worked it in a bit and I also put some on the floor of her house (plastic house). I looked under her wings and around her body and didn't see any others.

I bought a product called Harkers. It eradicates mites and most worms from pigeons but is supposed to work on chickens too even though it is not sold for chickens. I asked lots of questions about it beforehand and it seemed like just what I needed to make sure I had done all I could for Dot. I also bought her some vitamin and mineral drops for her water. With the Harkin drops the directions were to use 2 drops on a pigeon. I asked the man at the shop about how much to use on her because she is very skinny and he said just use the two drops. I used two drops the first day but the following day I gave her an extra drop.

She seemed a bit perkier the next morning and I thought maybe it was something to do with these products I bought for her but then she went right downhill again. For a few days or so she had spent a lot of time sitting still, not moving and with her head hung down. Yesterday she was all hunched up, head hung over, looking like she would not last the night. I don't know if she was sleeping or semi-conscious but she just "slept" in her box on a soft, clean blanket for hours, shallow breathing, not moving, unable to hold her head up. I cuddled her and assumed she would not make it through the night however she did, and she hung on most of today until early evening when she finally died.

I took her outside to bury her but I wanted to keep a few little feathers and while I was pushing the fluffy feathers around I discovered a sight that made me feel sick with guilt. It was an area, about 3 inches wide of thick mites on her body. They seemed to be in this one area and then almost before my eyes some appeared on her face-I have never seen any, ever on her face before.

I am feeling awful, that perhaps I did not check well enough. I have always read that mites like a warm part of the body and that I should check the vent area and under the wings. I know I always checked there well and never saw any but I am second guessing myself now . Could I really have missed that area every time I checked her? It seems unlikely and yet there they were.

Do mites congregate in one area? Do they rapidly multiply? If so could they multiply a lot in one day or two? Maybe because she was unwell they were able to do so as she was hardly moving? Can they just appear when a hen has died? Can they live in a plastic chicken house? I never saw any. I did look. I just feel so awful about it. I said to my husband many times that her face, which used to be so red, was now so pale and that was usually a sign on mites but I just couldn't find any.... He often said it was perhaps her great age but I don't know. Can anyone help please by answering some of my questions? May thanks in advance.
 
I'm so sorry for your loss!
She was an old lady, and very likely had another serious health issue, not fixable, and also the mites.
In the USA, permethrin spray or dust works very well, or the much more expensive spinosad. If you are in the UK, I don't know what's available.
DE isn't effective!
Mites may need to be treated at two week intervals so all the hatchlings are also killed.
The mites and lice arrive, sometime often, from wild songbirds, so any chicken who's free ranging, or who has wild bird come into their coop, will get reinfected. It's a constant fight here!
Mary
 
Seems like you did most everything right. You used louse/mite powder, checked repeatedly because she was prone to mites in her hat, and took good care of her at the end of her life. It’s unusual for chickens to get much older than her.

Like you, I wonder if the mites suddenly proliferated when she grew weak in the last couple of days. Don’t beat yourself up. She lived long and, I imagine, well! She was loved. A chicken couldn’t ask for more.
 
:hugsI'm sorry I can't answer your specific questions about mites. But I did not know a chicken could live as long as ten years! So you should know you gave your sweet girl a very good life and could not have loved her more than you did. Bless you for that! :love
 
Thank you all for taking the time to reply. I do so appreciate your kind and helpful words.
Can any of you answer the 3 following questions?

I know mites can infest wooden structures but what about a plastic covered cat box? in the seams between the top and bottom? I ask because as she was on her own and because of her age, we used to bring her in every night and keep her in a lidded cat box. I checked it regularly but never saw any problems. However the last few days, she did not want to be in there and one night we put her in and she jumped out, took herself into the laundry area and kind of hid in there.

This is probably a weird question and a little morbid but when a chicken dies does anyone know if mites would be aware of that and start crawling all around the chicken? Sort of like how flies find a dead carcass and start to cover it? I ask because the mites that were in her hat never seemed to leave that area and we certainly never saw any on her face but within a short while of her having died I began to see them on her face. It was odd. It was the first time ever.

Are there other things that can cause a chickens face to go very pale other than mites?

Thank you.
 
When you say a lidded cat box, do you mean a cat carrier, like for taking a cat to the vet? Can you post a picture of it? How often did you clean and what with? Did you ever spray it with Permetherin? Do you think she could have wanted out because it was too hot?
 
When you say a lidded cat box, do you mean a cat carrier, like for taking a cat to the vet? Can you post a picture of it? How often did you clean and what with? Did you ever spray it with Permetherin? Do you think she could have wanted out because it was too hot?
https://www.petplanet.co.uk/product...9TZkHm0gk5AxmmGwddQraCYev3lHjBlEaAucCEALw_wcB

It is something along the same lines as this. It is a cat litter box technically but it fit all our needs as "nesting box" that was easy enough to move around, rinse and bring in and out of our house. We laid newspaper in the bottom and just took out a few layers each day so she had fresh for the next evening. No we never sprayed it with anything other than water. We have been having quite an unusual heatwave here this past couple weeks so the "door" of the box was always left open so that it didn't build up heat. She could indeed have still found it too warm. One night I put her outside in a run with the cat box and another box just to see if she would be happier and which box she would choose. She left the cat box and got into the other box so I assumed the problem was with the box. Maybe even if left open it was too warm. We have all been very hot and the humidity has been very high.
 

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