Anyone know what strain Cackle Hatchery OEGs are?

[kelliepulido]

he is very handsome

 

[ddroland]

Any other recommendations on reputable American Game Breeders?

 

[DTchickens]

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There are a lot of American gamefowl breeders, the trick is just finding them.. A lot of gamefowl owners don't exactly go public with their breeds, in all honesty some are a little paranoid. All someone has to do is just ride by, see some cock's on tie outs and immediately people will assume "He's a cockfighter!" just because they don't think on it. After that, one call to the officials and then you may have to deal with the Animal Control.. I know of at least one person that stopped raising the American's just because he didn't want to deal with it, even if it didn't happen there was "still that chance" so now he just breeds Orientals and non-game breeds because people do not exactly see the Oriental's as a "fighting bird" like the American's, the Oriental games are viewed more as an Exotic. Which is why you see a high rise in interest in them.

Which you can say "If you do nothing wrong, then you have nothing to worry about." BUT, the thing is it's not unheard of them just walking up on your yard, turning pens over and then killing anything that fights (which if you raise games, should be everything unless they're not mature enough yet), and then you get fined .. It's not common of course, but things like that do happen too often and people are stuck with large fines and possibly prison time even if they did NOTHING. Because to the general public, games are not like that by nature but are "taught". Not meaning to step out of the rules though for possible mods who maybe reading, just being straight up.

But that shouldn't scare you away from the breeds, like I say- it isn't a common thing but has happened. The general public is becoming more aware, that is one reason I like to post on topics regarding games. Not only to offer information on games to people who don't have much knowledge of them, but to help the breed be understood better. I know, it would make me sick if I lost my yard like some people have because someone just "assumed".

But to get back on topic, they're around. You may could find some in your local market bulletin, I know in MS they're commonly listed.. But then of course, you have to really judge the birds, they could be good stock or they could be junk still. But it is typically better than purchasing from flea markets or things like that..

I can't think of a breeder in PA, but if I find someone will let ya know.. If you don't find some by spring, maybe I can slide some to you.. Will have to be shipped, but they're good stock. They will be out of the spangles on my website, if I get enough off. On my website there is a link to one forum you could ask around for sure, Prariefowl (Prariechiken here) is a breeder in Kansas with excellent stock, and is actually selling some birds now.. I don't believe they're all gone? Maybe look into contacting him, the birds would need to be shipped but I've dealt with him, and the birds are worth it.

http://prairiefowl.webs.com/


-Daniel

You are a savior Daniel and it is good to know there is an American Game Resource on CT. I will check with Prairiechikin and if nothing will get back to you, paying shipping isn't a big deal at all. On a side note, about two years ago someone told me of a farmer who had some games wild on his farm. I was interested and got a bunch of chicks, five of which turned out to be stags. They were very game and once they hit that certain age were really starting to go after each other. One stood out above the rest in look and gameness so I kept him and culled the rest. After all this reading I firmly believe he has a lot of American in him, he's got good station, red eyes, walnut comb, and is the king of the barnyard. I feel he is a little short and heavy in the leg but overall a fine bird. So after all this I might have an American in my flock, I was even able to get a Wheaton Hen out of that group of chicks. However I have really fallen in love with this breed and would love to add some pure brood stock. Take a look and let me know what you think. He is a little light on front hackles after showing my 40 lb turkey a thing or two.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/ddroland/Tito2.jpg

I like how he looks really, but looks like there maybe something else in there, but I think you figured that too? As for reputable gamefowl breeders, have you checked the Show Off Your Games! thread? There are quite a few on there, I especially suggest talking with people like CUDA, or Saladin..

I have a buddy who said he's going to light some birds this year, maybe when he starts getting eggs you could get some, but I'd have to talk to him. His lines would mostly be some Hochatown blues, lacy roundhead, or maybe some American game crossed with a little Peruvian.

You could also always go with the "breeders of old", but that will cost you a pretty penny I imagine.. About what's your price range? I know Randy (son of Johnny) Jumper sold some beautiful Kelso's to another guy not long ago, and those are definitely pure and good stock. I can see about finding some phone numbers if you want.

-Daniel

 

[ddroland]

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You are a savior Daniel and it is good to know there is an American Game Resource on CT. I will check with Prairiechikin and if nothing will get back to you, paying shipping isn't a big deal at all. On a side note, about two years ago someone told me of a farmer who had some games wild on his farm. I was interested and got a bunch of chicks, five of which turned out to be stags. They were very game and once they hit that certain age were really starting to go after each other. One stood out above the rest in look and gameness so I kept him and culled the rest. After all this reading I firmly believe he has a lot of American in him, he's got good station, red eyes, walnut comb, and is the king of the barnyard. I feel he is a little short and heavy in the leg but overall a fine bird. So after all this I might have an American in my flock, I was even able to get a Wheaton Hen out of that group of chicks. However I have really fallen in love with this breed and would love to add some pure brood stock. Take a look and let me know what you think. He is a little light on front hackles after showing my 40 lb turkey a thing or two.

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h320/ddroland/Tito2.jpg

I like how he looks really, but looks like there maybe something else in there, but I think you figured that too? As for reputable gamefowl breeders, have you checked the Show Off Your Games! thread? There are quite a few on there, I especially suggest talking with people like CUDA, or Saladin..

I have a buddy who said he's going to light some birds this year, maybe when he starts getting eggs you could get some, but I'd have to talk to him. His lines would mostly be some Hochatown blues, lacy roundhead, or maybe some American game crossed with a little Peruvian.

You could also always go with the "breeders of old", but that will cost you a pretty penny I imagine.. About what's your price range? I know Randy (son of Johnny) Jumper sold some beautiful Kelso's to another guy not long ago, and those are definitely pure and good stock. I can see about finding some phone numbers if you want.

-Daniel

I would say $200 top end, which I would imagine would buy a darn good bird. The bird in that photo has been a great bird, and at 3 years old I am thinking of crossing him with one of the OEG Brown/Red Pullets I have. I have no offspring from him yet. That Walnut comb will be hard to get out of there though I assume. It's small and tight which is good, but can't be dubbed. I would be very interested in a Grey (Duckwing) or Brown Red in any of the major strains. I am not so much a fan of the darker, more common Wheaton colorations. Thanks for info again and a PM with that number would be awesome.

This War Horse is one of the most beautiful birds I have ever seen.

 

[rosav831]

To everyone. Cackle hatchery has been raising gamefowl and good ones since 1936. They used to sell their gamefowl using the name of Smith's gamefowl farms that they used to advertise at the gamecock magazine. They even had a color brochure with pictures and name of the gamefowl.
When cockfights became illegal in their state they close Smith's gamefowl farms and added the standard old English gamefowl to cackle hatchery. Fearing they could lose their hatchery license if cought selling regular gamefowl.
About the old English gamefowl, that was the true gamefowl of the old days maybe back 300 years ago and more. They were game, smaller and single comb just like the Spanish gamefowl of today.
The difference is that the English crossed the original blood with other gamefowl specially Oriental so they can fight using the gaff and knife. That is why they have bigger body and many
comes peacomb.

 

[1cock2hens]

 

[centrarchid]

To everyone. Cackle hatchery has been raising gamefowl and good ones since 1936. They used to sell their gamefowl using the name of Smith's gamefowl farms that they used to advertise at the gamecock magazine. They even had a color brochure with pictures and name of the gamefowl.
When cockfights became illegal in their state they close Smith's gamefowl farms and added the standard old English gamefowl to cackle hatchery. Fearing they could lose their hatchery license if cought selling regular gamefowl.
About the old English gamefowl, that was the true gamefowl of the old days maybe back 300 years ago and more. They were game, smaller and single comb just like the Spanish gamefowl of today.
The difference is that the English crossed the original blood with other gamefowl specially Oriental so they can fight using the gaff and knife. That is why they have bigger body and many
comes peacomb.
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