Anyone non-religious here? Please be nice!

[Prettiest Frog]

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Exploration of the world around him, interactions with his fellows, etc... We were not born with knowledge, and we can choose what knowledge to acquire.

 

[redhen]

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I don't think she/he was calling anyone arrogant. I read it as just the opposite. I believe she/he was saying it would be arrogant OF THEM to judge someone else.

Everyone interprets things differently. There is no right or wrong answer. That is the beauty of who we all are as human beings. That is why everyone believes in something different. Whether that person chooses to feel empathy, sadness, anger, and even happiness for another person's beliefs is entirely up to them. They choose to be that way. That is called being human.

Bluemoon

Thank you Bluemoon, that is exactly where I was going with that thought. Had a hard time figuring out how it had offended anyone so much.

I'm sorry if i took your comments the wrong way...

 

[redhen]

Science gives you solid proof about something... Thats why i believe in it.
The other is just peoples imagination...

 

[redhen]

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Exploration of the world around him, interactions with his fellows, etc... We were not born with knowledge, and we can choose what knowledge to acquire.

You are right we are not born with knowledge...
There have been studies on feral children on this...
They have had children raised for their first years with with/by dogs...and the child acted like a dog... on all fours and barked and was actually part of the pack... they submitted to the alpha dogs like a real dog... they knew ALL the dog pack signals..everything... exactly like a dog.
Once the child was found and saved.. they had a VERY hard time to be "human"...

 

[SunnyDawn]

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Thank you Bluemoon, that is exactly where I was going with that thought. Had a hard time figuring out how it had offended anyone so much.

I'm sorry if i took your comments the wrong way...

Thanks!!! I appreciate that.

 

[gamebirdsonly]

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Solid proof of what ?

 

[Prettiest Frog]

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Solid proof of what ?

Water = Wet
Fire = Hot
Ice = Cold
Gravity Works
One does not simply walk into Mordor
Duke sucks

 

[Bluemoon420]

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Solid proof of what ?

Water = Wet
Fire = Hot
Ice = Cold
Gravity Works
One does not simply walk into Mordor
Duke sucks

Unless you're a hobbit with a ring and a purpose.

Bluemoon

 

[Rusty Hills Farm]

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Solid proof of what ?

For a really simple example: When you heat water, it turns to steam. I don't remember at what temp. it does that BUT every time you heat water to that point, it turns to steam. If you chill water to 32 degs, it freezes. Every time. That is a scientific fact because it can be repeated over and over and always has the same conclusion. The fact that it always has the same result no matter who conducts the experiment is what makes it scientific proof that H2O can be a solid, a liquid, and a gas.

Religion and philosophy are about what we think and feel and, since everyone thinks and feels differently from one another, the "truth" of a given philosophy really cannot be proved the way a scientific fact can. Many non-religious people stick to what they can prove scientifically and distrust what others simply believe is a truth. That doesn't make one right and the other wrong.

I look at it this way: I believe god is creating the universe and every scientific fact I can prove about that creation gives me an insight into how he thinks and how he made everything. Since these are facts I can prove, I feel safe accepting them as truths about him. Formal religions, however, were created by human beings, and because humans are not as smart as their creator, there are mistakes in those religions, so I avoid them and stick to what I know can be proved. Every provable scientific fact fills me with awe that he could create such a magnificent universe and makes me feel closer to him because I now understand this one minuscule bit about his creations: that H2O is a solid, a liquid, and a gas. Isn't that amazing? I haven't a clue how he figured it out and made it work, but I AM convinced that he did so. And that is just one tiny fragment of what he's done!


Rusty

 

[Mahonri]

Still being nice