⠀ Apple cider vinegar

[shortgrass]

Can you explain what you mean by "when a full understanding of the cycle if pathogens and worms is accomplished, PH also effects the ability of worms to even survive in the gut..."? Also, do you know what the pH of a chicken's gut is? Do you know what the pH of a chicken's crop is? Do you know what the pH of vinegar is? Can you explain how ACV "aids in immune response" and what it means to aid in immune response with respect to chickens? Thanks in advance for your reply.

Well, that's pretty deep lol, but I can simplify and just answer your general questions Full understanding of the cycle of parasites and pathogens must first be understood.. Ie, why and when and how a bird would contract but not be able to fight off a pathogen or parasite without a fully functional immune system and properly functioning gut is key to that; just like in humans, our gut us one if our biggest immune responses Ph ofca chickens first stomach can be about 3.5-4. Gizzard ph isn't really relevant, it just grinds up the food, the digestive juices are already there, so ph really pretty much remains the same... However, if they eat something big or say, bony.. The ph can plummet down to as low as .5 Ph of vinegar depends on what kind ya get... Ph ranges from 4-6. ACV us usually smack in the middle at 5. ALOT like people, proper PH if the gut and body overall, helps keep pathogens and parasites from being able to survive... Much like the PH and microbe content if the soil can affect whether or not the soil is infected with parasites as well. PH affects horomone response, histamine release, as well as keeping a proper balance if healthy microbes in the digestive tract. The reason for APPLE CIDER vinegar us just because it is closer to "natural", not chemical Hope it helped

 

[ADozenGirlz]

Well, that's pretty deep lol, but I can simplify and just answer your general questions

Full understanding of the cycle of parasites and pathogens must first be understood.. Ie, why and when and how a bird would contract but not be able to fight off a pathogen or parasite without a fully functional immune system and properly functioning gut is key to that; just like in humans, our gut us one if our biggest immune responses

Ph ofca chickens first stomach can be about 3.5-4.

Gizzard ph isn't really relevant, it just grinds up the food, the digestive juices are already there, so ph really pretty much remains the same... However, if they eat something big or say, bony.. The ph can plummet down to as low as .5

Ph of vinegar depends on what kind ya get... Ph ranges from 4-6. ACV us usually smack in the middle at 5.


ALOT like people, proper PH if the gut and body overall, helps keep pathogens and parasites from being able to survive... Much like the PH and microbe content if the soil can affect whether or not the soil is infected with parasites as well. PH affects horomone response, histamine release, as well as keeping a proper balance if healthy microbes in the digestive tract.

The reason for APPLE CIDER vinegar us just because it is closer to "natural", not chemical

Hope it helped

Actually,it didn't help. It's extraordinarily difficult to understand what you're trying to convey due to the syntax, but beyond that, the information is inaccurate. There is no such thing as "chemical" vinegar. There's pasteurized and unpasteurized and it doesn't matter one bit which type of vinegar one chooses to use in water to keep it from getting slimy in a chicken waterer- they will all work the same for that purpose.

The facts are:

*Most vinegars contain approximately 5 percent acetic acid, which is not the pH level of vinegar. The pH of white vinegar is in the 2.3-2.6 range generally and less acidic vinegars (apple cider, for example) generally fall in the 3.0-3.3 pH range.

*The pH of the crop is actually between 5-6. The pH of a chicken's gizzard is actually between 3-4.

 

[shortgrass]

Actually,it didn't help. It's extraordinarily difficult to understand what you're trying to convey due to the syntax, but beyond that, the information is inaccurate. There is no such thing as "chemical" vinegar. There's pasteurized and unpasteurized and it doesn't matter one bit which type of vinegar one chooses to use in water to keep it from getting slimy in a chicken waterer- they will all work the same for that purpose. 

 
The facts are:

*Most vinegars contain approximately 5 percent acetic acid, which is [COLOR=FF0000]not[/COLOR]  the pH level of vinegar. The pH of white vinegar is in the 2.3-2.6 range generally and less acidic vinegars (apple cider, for example) generally fall in the 3.0-3.3 pH range. 


 *The pH of the crop is actually between 5-6. The pH of a chicken's gizzard is actually between 3-4. 

Seems like you understood it just fine

Thanks for correcting the ph acidity vs. % acid in vinegar, my bad lol. Maybe I inhaled too much of it this season ROFL

Edit* some people don't like the taste of distilled ethanol induced acetic acid bacteria.. It's more in line with "chemical", even though it's all from bacteria. That's why I put it in quotations lol

I dug this up for those following who would be thoroughly confused by my " syntax".
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...RRFDTI&usg=AFQjCNE1PEJ-dKodOsrKCfA-xXLceZP1_w

 

[chickengeorgeto]

I use organic acv with my parrots 10cc to one gallon of distilled water. I give this for two weeks at a time every three months. I have been researching it with chickens. I asked a man who has a masters degree in poultry nutrition from Clemson University. He said it would not hurt them and he has heard of people using it with chickens.

At one time it was a common medical practice to dose human infants who were cutting teeth with 160 proof liquor cut or diluted with honey and spices. This once common patented medicine was called Hadacal. A 4 tablespoon dose of Hadacal was enough to knock any fretting child on its diapered backside.

At one time it was also common to feed chickens ground up coal and chewing tobacco to combat internal parasites but that doesn't mean that any of these old time home remedies are good for your or for your chickens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadacol

 

[tigerchick]

I use the ACV with mother. 10cc per gallon of water. I have used it for years with my parrots and now my chickens

 

[ADozenGirlz]

I use the ACV with mother. 10cc per gallon of water. I have used it for years with my parrots and now my chickens

It can't hurt, but money is better spent on probiotics for gut health. The mother requires oxygen to live and grow- once the mother hits the crop, it's in an oxygen-free environment and rendered useless.

 

[shortgrass]

It can't hurt, but money is better spent on probiotics for gut health. The mother requires oxygen to live and grow- once the mother hits the crop, it's in an oxygen-free environment and rendered useless. 

Would you care to enlighten us on exactly what "mother" is?

How is it made?

What is the reasoning behind these protein bonds?

And why is it your opinion that they are useless?

Thanks in advance

 

[bmandy72]

I want to thank everyone who posted on this. I was searching for the use of ACV in chicken water. My purpose was to assist in keeping my waterer from freezing over A northeast winter. This was helpful in knowing its safe for my feathered babies

 

[jc mac]

I'm in the adirondacks, so are you saying that acv will help stop the water from freezing.

 

[schradersl]

Helps them digest calcium. Its good for people too.