the problem I have is that I am not sure what these are..they could be Bourbon Reds, or a cross with a Holland white or a narragansett..very interesting, but as we are just going for dinner birds here, it's not a problem and they will be treated well and have a good life until then. All the birds are fed well, and get treats..the turkeys are the funniest about treats and make the most noise. But run gracefully..unlike some of the hens with the pantiloon feathered legs who are the most fun to watch run across the yard to get in on the teats.