Araucana thread anyone?

[wilds of pa]

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That would be in very rare cases...

However I had a big double tufted hen who had a hole right through her ear canal into her throat, every time she ate food, some would come out her ear hole..
i ultimately put her down.. We've hatch 1000"s of araucana chicks and only had this ever happen to one..as for the internal tufts don't believe i have ever had one in all the hatches and birds we've raised.

Ive seen slightly crooked heads from breeding tuft to tuft in a small % of chicks as well, they were put down as well in all cases and we went back to breeding tuft to clean face only...


As for tuft sizing, even the smallest single or double tufted birds can though great double tufted offspring...

large fowl araucana weight = 5lbs

 

[klf73]

ugh, you're other half told me about the hole and food thing

. I hope I never have to see that

 

[Illia]

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I've heard of it before - Holes in the throat and all. Scary, really.

And, I know - Araucanas shouldd be a pound under the weight of Ameraucanas - My question is, why are my chicks half the size of my Ameraucanas?

Oh and are any of you guys Duckwing experts? I've got some Duckwings I'd love to get straight on what they are. . . One I'm sure is a golden duckwing cockerel, the others. . . Not sure. For all I know they have something else leaking through.

 

[heritagebirds]

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I've heard of it before - Holes in the throat and all. Scary, really.

And, I know - Araucanas shouldd be a pound under the weight of Ameraucanas - My question is, why are my chicks half the size of my Ameraucanas?

Oh and are any of you guys Duckwing experts? I've got some Duckwings I'd love to get straight on what they are. . . One I'm sure is a golden duckwing cockerel, the others. . . Not sure. For all I know they have something else leaking through.

I had a golden duckwing roo, but he was a little off color, due to the blue gene. I'm not an expert, but I could try to help you out.

 

[megcpat]

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Great info, thanks! So, is there a modifying gene that affects how the tufts present (single, teensy, etc)?

 

[Illia]

Okay duckwing experts. . . . Help me out here.

I had the luck of receiving only 3 duckwing (or BBR?) chicks in an Araucana order, and here's how they feathered out. . . At first I thought I had all pullets, then one cockerel and two pullets. . . And just today I realized this one is a cockerel. So, why no black chest coming in? And what color IS he? He certainly screams pullet to me if it weren't for his very prominent comb and little fight he started today with a splash cockerel.

And, here's a definite cockerel who I believe is Gold Duckwing - He's getting a nice black chest, and suddenly is turning beautiful reds, purples, and golden colors. Each day these colors come out more and more.

And then there's this pullet. At least, I'm pretty darn sure it's a pullet. But, if it is a duckwing - Why doesn't she have a brown tinge to her? Or a salmon colored chest?

 

[WestKnollAmy]

The top photo and bottom photo look like silver duckwings to me but the middle I would have to wait and see. The bottom one you should know is a pullet because the line is coming out of the middle of her eye instead of the bottom of the eye. My duckwing roos have never looked like the one in the middle but it can depend on what is in their background as to how they color up, too. However, my pullets do come out looking like your #3 photo.

I'm glad no one has seen the internal tufts on here too much. I suspect I have had it happen more and not known it. I breed tufted to tufted quite often but the pullet last year was out of a clean faced hen and a bilateral tufted roo. I was told that the hen could have internal tufts to cause this.

The Araucana Club is so lucky to have someone at Clemson University working with the Araucana breed. Mostly she is working with the spinal problems in chicks but still has insight to other problems that develop from breeding the Araucanas. It is often in the Newsletter but I live less than an hour away so I am fortunate in that.

I have several blue girls that are clean faced but I have had the blue laced with tufts. Those have been bought at some outrageous prices from me. From now I just say no instead of putting an exorbitant price on them. Good reason I have so few! I have to stop selling them and say no way, no how, for no amount of money! I am down to only 2 roos now and they are trying to keep up with all the girls. LOL

 

[wilds of pa]

i suspect most spinal problems are associated with constant breeding of rumpless to rumpless as the birds backs become shorter and shorter over years of breeding this way or defects arise from this...at some point you must include tailed birds to the picture..most breeding problems are associated with the rumpless birds, no fertility or cant breed..hence some try clipping rear ends or are thinking about artificial insemination or pass the birds onto some other person..

one would never know if they have a bird with internal tufts unless they specifically breed that bird(clean face to clean face), probably if anybody had them they were bred to tufted birds and didn't know it had them including me, because id guess more than likely, it doesn't happen to often..

most that breed for tufts in there flocks, pen their birds tuft to clean faced or tuft to tuft to make sure of a % of tufted offspring in there hatches..

 

[cashdl]

Hopefully if I did this right here are some pics of my araucana's.


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Lanae

 

[cashdl]

I almost forgot Mark Anthony. He would be offended. Also thank you Illia for your help.

Lanae