Araucana thread anyone?

That's wonderful! Sounds like education has made it up north. Did you show any of your birds?

I will be going to our local fair next week. Will be interesting to see what there is. And, No, I'm not showing anything. Just love seeing what is out there.
 
I know we've talked leg color a million times, but i'm having challenges this year. so as per SOP, blacks should have willow-black, bbr & duckwings are willow, whites are to be yellow...

My cock is very definitely green legged. I will have to look at his 1 hen again, but i thought she was green as well, and the other 2 are blue and black so black legged.

I was looking in my grow out pen and I saw only about half had proper leg coloring, the others looked to have a dusky color. not blue, but not green either...

Does green hide other colors?

Also how does one get yellow legs on a white? mine have green lol
 
Males look pretty much the same; females look different. So technically a wheaten base is not BBR, nor is a partridge base.

Also E/e+ is not birchen. E^R is birchen.
That is incorrect. BBR in large fowl for the araucana are wheaten based, so is the malay and the cubalaya. BBR refers to the phenotype or physical color, the e+, ewh, and eb refers to their genetic color base.

Lanae
 
(e+) is wild type. It can be silver duckwing, golden duckwing and Black Breasted Red. Black Breasted Red can also be based on Wheaten (ewh) and Partridge (eb) The only way to tell the difference in the 3 base colors - wild type, wheaten, and partridge in the BBR color is to look at chick down color or the adult hen colors. The roo colors are all almost identical, the typical BBR color.

Lanae


Thanks so much for the info Lanae! I WILL get this down! Actually, it's not so much the genetics with me (I have a biology background), but just recognizing what I'm seeing. I plan to take pics of all my chicks each week to track plumage development. This time next year I ought to have a better idea of how things look.

Sonoran Silkies--regarding the birchen, way earlier in this thread there was a discussion of whether ER was present in Araucanas or not. The consensus was that it does exist, but it was pointed out (by Illia I think) that E/e+ mocks birchen phenotypically, and can not always be told from the real thing by looking.

Thanks again!

Kirsten
 
Hi Kristen,

ER does exist in araucana, there are several people working on that color. I myself used to have a birchen rooster who produced birchen chicks. I sold him to Cathy and he recently died but I believe Cathy is with me on this, that birchen does exist in araucana. I kept 1 roo from him. I also have 1 or 2 birchen hens from him running around here.

Most often it is seen as brown red which is the gold version, where birchen is the silver phenotype. I think the correct term for ER is crow wing which describes the lack of wing triangle, while birchen is the color and brown red is the color.


I am off to SoCal, everyone have a great week.

Lanae
 
That's wonderful! Sounds like education has made it up north. Did you show any of your birds?

I will be going to our local fair next week. Will be interesting to see what there is. And, No, I'm not showing anything. Just love seeing what is out there.

I am not showing any birds, but I will next year. I actually thought only 4Hers could show, but it turns out, anyone can enter poultry! However, I learned this a few days after the deadline for entry. So I would LOVE to display some true Araucanas, just for the fun of it. So next year, hopefully I have some 'show worthy' birds, right leg color, double tufted, a showable color, etc.
 
An update on my chocolate project pen
One of my chocolate pullets spent some inside, resting on the desk time. I played with her a bit and took some updated pics but in some pics, the color looked accurate but she was squatting down and in the pics where she was posing nice, the flash made the color "off" lol

Oh well, these pics are all of the same chocolate pullet, this one is in nice pose, showing off her one nice tuft but her color is washed out with the lamp and camera flash.




This is her squatting, but I took it without flash and with a floor lamp on high by the desk and her color is much more natural in this photo.




I tried this one outside with flash


 
Hi Kristen,

ER does exist in araucana, there are several people working on that color. I myself used to have a birchen rooster who produced birchen chicks. I sold him to Cathy and he recently died but I believe Cathy is with me on this, that birchen does exist in araucana. I kept 1 roo from him. I also have 1 or 2 birchen hens from him running around here.

Most often it is seen as brown red which is the gold version, where birchen is the silver phenotype. I think the correct term for ER is crow wing which describes the lack of wing triangle, while birchen is the color and brown red is the color.


I am off to SoCal, everyone have a great week.

Lanae

Thanks Lanae. Have a great week too!

Kirsten
 

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