Are Delewares the same as Columbian Rocks?

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This is, strictly speaking, true. But what they considered a "broiler" in the '40's, we'd still consider a dual-purpose bird today. Also, by the time the Delaware was admitted to the SOP as a separate breed (and therefore no longer a broiler hybrid), it grew pretty fast, but not like the orginal crossed hybrids.

A Delaware carcass just can't compare with today's meat birds as a broiler, and as far as laying goes, well, they always laid a bit better than Rocks, because of the NH blood. See Henderson's comparison chart for a comparison:
http://www.ithaca.edu/staff/jhenderson/chooks/chooks.html

Delawares today are categorized as a heritage dual-purpose breed.

The other thing I'd point out is that since Delawares nearly died out in the 70's, most of the remaining stock was pretty inbred, and had lost much of its fast-growing broiler potential and hybrid vigor.
To compensate for this lost production, some hatchery Delawares today have been outcrossed with production reds to improve vigor and laying ability; this gives a less meaty bird. As I said above, some have been crossed with Columbian Rocks, though, and that strategy better keeps the heavy breed look of the original birds as well as a cleaner silver/white.

There are very few of the original pure Delaware bloodlines left today (the ALBC estimates fewer than 500 birds; obviously, that rules out a good number of the hatchery birds being sold as "Delawares" on a mass production scale). So talking about that original NHxBR cross, well, that's a matter for the history books.
 
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Is it normal for a Delaware to have a giant floppy comb like a Leghorn? I have a hatchery Delaware with one. I just assumed it was due to sloppy breeding.
 
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Delawares are supposed to have larger combs than a Rock, but smaller than a Leghorn. The B&W illustration of the female in the SOP has a comb that bends slightly, and the description says it may be "slightly inclined to lop at the rear." Straight is better.
 
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Delawares are supposed to have larger combs than a Rock, but smaller than a Leghorn. The B&W illustration of the female in the SOP has a comb that bends slightly, and the description says it may be "slightly inclined to lop at the rear." Straight is better.

Thanks. There's nothing slight about it. It flops over and forward covering one eye. It's like a big floppy hat. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest to find out there was a rogue Leghorn roo in the Delaware pen.
 
A few years ago MMH offered Columbian Rocks & I wish I had ordered some then. I just like their looks, the coloring reminds me of chickens in the old Merrie Melody cartoons. Now MMH just offers the Delawares.

I got some Delawares in a Meat Bird Special order, they did get nice & big. And I have one hen who is the self-appointed Queen of her flock, real bossy & determined to get first grabs on any treat, but also good natured towards us.

Let us know if you find some Columbian Rocks, we can start a fad!
 
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They still have them listed as a possibility in some of their assortments, I think, but you can't order them separately.

Columbian Rocks are beautiful birds, and it'd sure be nice to see more people work with them.
 
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Now, do you think that's because they actually do have a small number of Col. Rock chicks, or do you think they just haven't updated their blurbs to reflect the, ah, coincidental shift from listing Col. Rocks to listing Delawares as a breed they supply?
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Pat
 
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Now, do you think that's because they actually do have a small number of Col. Rock chicks, or do you think they just haven't updated their blurbs to reflect the, ah, coincidental shift from listing Col. Rocks to listing Delawares as a breed they supply?
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LOL, Pat, I couldn't say what you'd get if you ordered, except that it'd be white bird with a black tail
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Btw, y'all, I think it was Privett that used to list a "breed" they called "Delaware/Columbian Rock." Now, when I saw that, I thought, well, at least they're being honest about it.
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After all is said and done, my intentions are to find some Columbian Rocks, though I have no idea where, and raise some to "reintroduce" to other BYC members. I love the look of the CR and can't believe more are not raising them. If any of you find or hear of a source PLEASE let me know. In the meantime I' going to start a new coop or tractor and get ready for some in the spring.
 
I ended up with a "Delaware" roo in a MMH order that was supposed to be all pullets... but his comb was very small... almost pea combish. He was a beautiful bird but we rehomed him. Wish we would have put him in the freezer.
 

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