Hoppy, if you want to show, do it for the experience. I did it once when I was in school for FFA. I didn't win anything, but it gave me an idea of what goes on and how the birds are judged.
are my blr dotties show quality?
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I think that the BLRW in America are still a few years away from being good eonugh to show...as in similar in type, good color, and lacing in the Silver Laced. Even they have their problems and you noticed I didnt mention Gold Laced...since I have never seen a good one, the whites are hard to beat in shows but heck they all seem to have bunny tails now and look more like cochins than dottes.
Most of the BLRW here look like Rocks and have little or no Wyandotte shape to them at all and I hope I dont hurt anyones feelings when I say that your BLRW dont look that much like wyandottes...I have a friend who is the secretary of the Wyandotte Breeders of America and when I ever I send him a picture of my latest best BLRW he always emails me back with a "nice for a barnyard mutt" comment..LOL.
There are a few of us out there that are trying to improve the BLRW and we will get there someday. I am not all that impressed with the German BLRW either....their combs are not that great and honestly their standard is different from ours on what a wyandotte should look like..hey the Wyandotte is an american breed of chicken and I think we can stick with the standard as written in the APA.
Anyway here is a pic of a young BLRW pullet, she does have the lacing in her hackles...but it is hard to tell in this picture. Her lacing could be better, her comb could be a little thinner, she actually has pretty good type and color. This is the blue that I am sticking with on my BLRW and splash is not a correct color for showing, use only your blues if you are going to show...you can show your black laced as a Gold Laced...trust me they will probably be better than the real gold laced at the show.
I hope you will keep breeding your BLRW and working to improve them...its tough to grow out a bunch of big standard chickens that really need to be at least 18 months old before you can tell how good they are...but it is the only way they will get better..
Jerry
PS...hi Katy
Most of the BLRW here look like Rocks and have little or no Wyandotte shape to them at all and I hope I dont hurt anyones feelings when I say that your BLRW dont look that much like wyandottes...I have a friend who is the secretary of the Wyandotte Breeders of America and when I ever I send him a picture of my latest best BLRW he always emails me back with a "nice for a barnyard mutt" comment..LOL.
There are a few of us out there that are trying to improve the BLRW and we will get there someday. I am not all that impressed with the German BLRW either....their combs are not that great and honestly their standard is different from ours on what a wyandotte should look like..hey the Wyandotte is an american breed of chicken and I think we can stick with the standard as written in the APA.
Anyway here is a pic of a young BLRW pullet, she does have the lacing in her hackles...but it is hard to tell in this picture. Her lacing could be better, her comb could be a little thinner, she actually has pretty good type and color. This is the blue that I am sticking with on my BLRW and splash is not a correct color for showing, use only your blues if you are going to show...you can show your black laced as a Gold Laced...trust me they will probably be better than the real gold laced at the show.
I hope you will keep breeding your BLRW and working to improve them...its tough to grow out a bunch of big standard chickens that really need to be at least 18 months old before you can tell how good they are...but it is the only way they will get better..
Jerry
PS...hi Katy
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we do all have something to work on, afterall, if we didn't have some goal in mind, they would just be barnyard mixes.
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Hi Jerry....I talk to Mrs. Turbo quite frequently
Very pretty pullet
Hi Jerry....I talk to Mrs. Turbo quite frequently
Very pretty pullet
Well, I don't know if mine are any nicer, and they probably won't pass your test Krys, but I'm happy with how they're coming along.
Katy IMO your birds look nice & the lacing is tidy. I don't mean to imply I'm any judge, I'm not. I said I hadn't seen any nicer blue laced wyandottes posted here; I hadn't. But if you're even remotely interested in my opinion, yours are nicer (I suppose if you were totally disinterested you wouldn't have felt the need to post any pics). IMO Hoppy's birds are a lot better than most one sees posted & all of a sudden people were being really discouraging & giving him a harder time than the birds deserved.
I am not American, our cultures are totally different. If I say anything, I say it as I see it. I don't have a problem with people pointing out issues with my birds that's how one learns. It seems the helpful thing to do. I've seen some very poor looking birds with posts from whole strings of people praising them (believe it or not I'm not a complete ignoramus when it comes to some breeds)....it makes me wonder why people don't notice the vast differences between the birds posted & what the birds are supposed to look like.
Katy IMO your birds look nice & the lacing is tidy. I don't mean to imply I'm any judge, I'm not. I said I hadn't seen any nicer blue laced wyandottes posted here; I hadn't. But if you're even remotely interested in my opinion, yours are nicer (I suppose if you were totally disinterested you wouldn't have felt the need to post any pics). IMO Hoppy's birds are a lot better than most one sees posted & all of a sudden people were being really discouraging & giving him a harder time than the birds deserved.
I am not American, our cultures are totally different. If I say anything, I say it as I see it. I don't have a problem with people pointing out issues with my birds that's how one learns. It seems the helpful thing to do. I've seen some very poor looking birds with posts from whole strings of people praising them (believe it or not I'm not a complete ignoramus when it comes to some breeds)....it makes me wonder why people don't notice the vast differences between the birds posted & what the birds are supposed to look like.
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Katy IMO your birds look nice & the lacing is tidy. I don't mean to imply I'm any judge, I'm not. I said I hadn't seen any nicer blue laced wyandottes posted here; I hadn't. But if you're even remotely interested in my opinion, yours are nicer (I suppose if you were totally disinterested you wouldn't have felt the need to post any pics). IMO Hoppy's birds are a lot better than most one sees posted & all of a sudden people were being really discouraging & giving him a harder time than the birds deserved.
I am not American, our cultures are totally different. If I say anything, I say it as I see it. I don't have a problem with people pointing out issues with my birds that's how one learns. It seems the helpful thing to do. I've seen some very poor looking birds with posts from whole strings of people praising them (believe it or not I'm not a complete ignoramus when it comes to some breeds)....it makes me wonder why people don't notice the vast differences between the birds posted & what the birds are supposed to look like.
Mine have been posted here from time to time as have the Turbos (not that I'm comparing mine to theirs.....But hopefully one day I'll catch up to them
). Most people don't see the difference for the same reason you made the blanket statement about not having seen any nicer ones posted on here......it's impossible to catch every picture that is posted on here.
I don't think our cultures make us that different. I'm a direct person too....I usually don't see any need to beat around the bush about something. I want to improve my birds....not just keep them as they are so I'm happy to hear other breeders give suggestions about how to improve them. I don't think she was being picked on....she asked if they were good enough to show and was being given opinions and suggestions.
A big percentage of people who own chickens on here don't have their birds for any other reason than eggs and because they like them. So to that person a poorly laced or colored BLRW is still a very pretty bird so I think that accounts for the comments people make.
Katy IMO your birds look nice & the lacing is tidy. I don't mean to imply I'm any judge, I'm not. I said I hadn't seen any nicer blue laced wyandottes posted here; I hadn't. But if you're even remotely interested in my opinion, yours are nicer (I suppose if you were totally disinterested you wouldn't have felt the need to post any pics). IMO Hoppy's birds are a lot better than most one sees posted & all of a sudden people were being really discouraging & giving him a harder time than the birds deserved.
I am not American, our cultures are totally different. If I say anything, I say it as I see it. I don't have a problem with people pointing out issues with my birds that's how one learns. It seems the helpful thing to do. I've seen some very poor looking birds with posts from whole strings of people praising them (believe it or not I'm not a complete ignoramus when it comes to some breeds)....it makes me wonder why people don't notice the vast differences between the birds posted & what the birds are supposed to look like.
Mine have been posted here from time to time as have the Turbos (not that I'm comparing mine to theirs.....But hopefully one day I'll catch up to them
I don't think our cultures make us that different. I'm a direct person too....I usually don't see any need to beat around the bush about something. I want to improve my birds....not just keep them as they are so I'm happy to hear other breeders give suggestions about how to improve them. I don't think she was being picked on....she asked if they were good enough to show and was being given opinions and suggestions.
A big percentage of people who own chickens on here don't have their birds for any other reason than eggs and because they like them. So to that person a poorly laced or colored BLRW is still a very pretty bird so I think that accounts for the comments people make.
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Katy IMO your birds look nice & the lacing is tidy. I don't mean to imply I'm any judge, I'm not. I said I hadn't seen any nicer blue laced wyandottes posted here; I hadn't. But if you're even remotely interested in my opinion, yours are nicer (I suppose if you were totally disinterested you wouldn't have felt the need to post any pics). IMO Hoppy's birds are a lot better than most one sees posted & all of a sudden people were being really discouraging & giving him a harder time than the birds deserved.
I am not American, our cultures are totally different. If I say anything, I say it as I see it. I don't have a problem with people pointing out issues with my birds that's how one learns. It seems the helpful thing to do. I've seen some very poor looking birds with posts from whole strings of people praising them (believe it or not I'm not a complete ignoramus when it comes to some breeds)....it makes me wonder why people don't notice the vast differences between the birds posted & what the birds are supposed to look like.
Mine have been posted here from time to time as have the Turbos (not that I'm comparing mine to theirs.....But hopefully one day I'll catch up to them
). Most people don't see the difference for the same reason you made the blanket statement about not having seen any nicer ones posted on here......it's impossible to catch every picture that is posted on here.
I don't think our cultures make us that different. I'm a direct person too....I usually don't see any need to beat around the bush about something. I want to improve my birds....not just keep them as they are so I'm happy to hear other breeders give suggestions about how to improve them. I don't think she was being picked on....she asked if they were good enough to show and was being given opinions and suggestions.
A big percentage of people who own chickens on here don't have their birds for any other reason than eggs and because they like them. So to that person a poorly laced or colored BLRW is still a very pretty bird so I think that accounts for the comments people make.
I agree with Katy, except I think she has VERY nice BLRW and Blues.....
Katy IMO your birds look nice & the lacing is tidy. I don't mean to imply I'm any judge, I'm not. I said I hadn't seen any nicer blue laced wyandottes posted here; I hadn't. But if you're even remotely interested in my opinion, yours are nicer (I suppose if you were totally disinterested you wouldn't have felt the need to post any pics). IMO Hoppy's birds are a lot better than most one sees posted & all of a sudden people were being really discouraging & giving him a harder time than the birds deserved.
I am not American, our cultures are totally different. If I say anything, I say it as I see it. I don't have a problem with people pointing out issues with my birds that's how one learns. It seems the helpful thing to do. I've seen some very poor looking birds with posts from whole strings of people praising them (believe it or not I'm not a complete ignoramus when it comes to some breeds)....it makes me wonder why people don't notice the vast differences between the birds posted & what the birds are supposed to look like.
Mine have been posted here from time to time as have the Turbos (not that I'm comparing mine to theirs.....But hopefully one day I'll catch up to them
I don't think our cultures make us that different. I'm a direct person too....I usually don't see any need to beat around the bush about something. I want to improve my birds....not just keep them as they are so I'm happy to hear other breeders give suggestions about how to improve them. I don't think she was being picked on....she asked if they were good enough to show and was being given opinions and suggestions.
A big percentage of people who own chickens on here don't have their birds for any other reason than eggs and because they like them. So to that person a poorly laced or colored BLRW is still a very pretty bird so I think that accounts for the comments people make.
I agree with Katy, except I think she has VERY nice BLRW and Blues.....
Wyandottes are a recognized bred for showing, but the Blue Laced Red are not recognized variety, so you would only be able to get Best of Breed with it, not any higher. That does not mean you should not show them, as showing them is how varieties get recognized.
Your birds are nice, but, for true Blue Laced Red wyandottes, the red part should be a very dark brick red color. Also you should not mate a splash to a splash, which is what you have in your pics. The rooster or the hens should have a dark blue lacing not the light they exhibit, and the other sex could be the lighter shade. This prevents the really light blue you have "splash" from conitueing to be that white. However, seeing the picture at the bottom is your goal bird, keep what you got and show what you have in the meantime if thats your wish, just to get a feel for showing.
Your birds are nice, but, for true Blue Laced Red wyandottes, the red part should be a very dark brick red color. Also you should not mate a splash to a splash, which is what you have in your pics. The rooster or the hens should have a dark blue lacing not the light they exhibit, and the other sex could be the lighter shade. This prevents the really light blue you have "splash" from conitueing to be that white. However, seeing the picture at the bottom is your goal bird, keep what you got and show what you have in the meantime if thats your wish, just to get a feel for showing.
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Wait...don't you mean best of variety?
Wait...don't you mean best of variety?
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Wait...don't you mean best of variety?
No, I have still seen some judges put an unrecognized variety as Best of Breed. Maybe the judges were wrong, but to that, I do not know, just that I have seen it done. I have also seen Easter eggers, entered as Ameraucanas get best AOSB if there was nothing else in the class, which also should not be done IMO.
Wait...don't you mean best of variety?
No, I have still seen some judges put an unrecognized variety as Best of Breed. Maybe the judges were wrong, but to that, I do not know, just that I have seen it done. I have also seen Easter eggers, entered as Ameraucanas get best AOSB if there was nothing else in the class, which also should not be done IMO.
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