Are these Orphingtons?

RememberTheWay

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Help on id...are the black and white birds orphingtons too?
 

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Both Orpingtons
Could they possibly be Maran? I was given both hens and they didn't know any information because the owner of them had passed away. I am trying to figure out what exactly they are. They are bigger hens. They aren't laying right now but my buff orphington lays a light beige colored egg, either the black or the white one laid one egg a few days ago and it is much darker brown then the color egg my buff orphington lays. Not sure if that changes anything. The white one in my photos has black random plumage so I was wondering if she may actually be a splash Marans and not a white orphington? I'm certain the two hens are the same breed and I was leaning orphington but now I'm not sure.

Does anyone know what would be a deciding quality between these two breeds that might tell me which breed they actually are?
 

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