are y'all better off than you were 4 years ago ?

[cpwhip]

I have had no problem down here getting quoted price per gallon an buying one fill up at a time. Sense I bought my own tank anyway. What your one bill is is not far below what I expect to pay for all year.

I tried to buy my own tank last year but because of insurance reasons and state laws not one company would agree fill it!
I also am on a will call basis simply because if I were to lock in a price they estimated my bill would be 500 a month 12 months a year.
the will call helps keep me to control how much I can afford at any given time..trust me the propane companies know the have us by the umentionables
because not only is my heat propane everything is...my household consists of just myself and my Husband.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

Liking my state more an more... How does home heating oil (off road diesel) compare?

 

[cpwhip]

my next door neighbor says he pays about 1,300 total for oil during the winter months.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

That aint to bad. You should be able to run a diesel generator off that to if needed.

 

[newfoundland]

I agree with your British aquaintance RHranch, although I could never consider it a topic for hilarity. Why US has not had socialised medicine before now I will never understand? People out there are suffering grieviously and there is no need for it.

 

[Mtn Laurel]

well there you have it thats why you are doing so well "propane" I have a bill sitting right here for 1,250.00 the 1st of 4-5 bills I will pay over the winter just to heat my house!
I will be installing baseboard heaters this weekend because eletricity is cheaper! I have watched the last couple of years as my propane bills go from 700-800 to 1,200-1,300
and climbing with no end insight. I called around to different companies to get the best price per gallon and they refuse to tell me how much I will pay and they want to lock me
in to contracts some as long as 5 years! propane is a joke.. better off? no NOT at all!!!

The cost of propane, heating oil, and electricity is the reason we went to a wood stove years ago. It's a true pain-in-the-butt with the chopping and the hauling and trying to regulate the heat in the house but it has saved us thousands over the years. We're lucky to live on 2.5 wooded acres and can usually get by with wood from our own property. We'll clear fallen trees for neighbors after storms and use that, too.

The up side is that we have heat and the means to cook should the electricity go out and it frequently does. We were without power for 6 days during "Snowmageddon" 2 years ago and they're calling for a snowy winter this year, too. Had daughter and her family with us as they didn't have a fireplace and were also without power. 6 of us and we were warm, we ate well, and even bathed the baby in a large tub in front of the wood stove!

I'd love to get "off-the-grid" entirely but don't see that happening. I try to keep my use of electricity down to a minimum but it was killer this summer with the heat. My cooling bill was astronomical and I'm still trying to pay it off! At least we'll have a breather in the winter as we won't have to pay for heat.

 

[Mountain Man Jim]

well there you have it thats why you are doing so well "propane" I have a bill sitting right here for 1,250.00 the 1st of 4-5 bills I will pay over the winter just to heat my house!
I will be installing baseboard heaters this weekend because eletricity is cheaper! I have watched the last couple of years as my propane bills go from 700-800 to 1,200-1,300
and climbing with no end insight. I called around to different companies to get the best price per gallon and they refuse to tell me how much I will pay and they want to lock me
in to contracts some as long as 5 years! propane is a joke.. better off? no NOT at all!!!

Whoo, easy there cpwhip. If I understand you correctly you plan to heat your house with electricity instead of propane? I would be careful with that switch. On a heating energy unit basis, electricity is typically 3 times as expensive as a fossil fuel (last time I calculated it). This is because in most of the country we generate electricity with fossil fuels with a bunch of inefficiencies that are reflected in the cost of electricity.

If you send me your electric rate and your propane rates, I could run a quick comparison. Just PM me.

Later,

Jim

PS.

To check my assertion, I looked up the national utility rates and found the following. Based todays rates natural gas is 90% cheaper than electric and propane is 28% cheaper.

 

[rebelcowboysnb]

We are hydro here so electric is cheaper. Outages are normal though so we heat an cook in propane... Just called for a refill to today..

 

[CuteTxChicks]

You're not doing it wrong.

Life isn't easy...ours isn't easy by any stretch of the imagination. If we have nothing and we're barely getting by, we're thankful that we are alive to experience having nothing. If times are good and we are able to eat better than mac-n-cheese we are thankful for that too. A lot of people tell me that I live in my own little "rainbows and sunshine" world, and I guess I probably do...but I choose to be thankful and happy for whatever life throws at me, whether it be good or bad. Being bitter and angry are just things I refuse to be for any longer than 10 minutes at a time (doing that eats you up inside, and if there is any eating to be going on, I want to be eating something tasty..not something eating me instead).
I just like to be happy, and if that means eating stale macaroni and cheese with a great big smile on my face, or pushing the car up the road while smiling because the blasted thing broke down again - so be it. I wonder if they will find a way for chickens to power vehicles (manure anyone?)

I'm sorry the last 4 years have been difficult for you, and I sincerely pray that the next 4 will find you well and with abundant blessings, truly. =')

x2. If it was easy, everyone would do it! We CHOOSE how we react to what life throws our way. You either choose to live abundantly or not. The people is the big houses don't have the abundance we have when they CHOOSE to react negatively.

 

[Mountain Man Jim]

We are hydro here so electric is cheaper. Outages are normal though so we heat an cook in propane... Just called for a refill to today..

I've heard this. If I can ask, what do pay $ per kWh??

Jim