Are you Pro-Gun because of predators?

[darkmatter]

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Sometimes claiming the deed can cause more problems. In most places it is legal to shoot a dog that is harassing your livestock, but it can still cause quite a problem with neighbors who may not agree. There are instances when it's best to just let the neighbors wonder what ever became of that dog than to make life-long enemies.

I wouldn't paint the topic with such a broad brush, there are always individual circumstances.

I disagree with this, heartily. If one cannot bear the problems associated with claiming the deed, then one shouldn't do the deed. Responsibility and accountability should be part of it, for both parties.

Responsibility and accountability would be the right thing to do. However, that dog that got into my Chicken pen from the Meth-head bozos a couple miles up the Road. I just SSS, because they're getting another dozen pit bulls anyway to protect their assets and don't have any ethics of their own.
I don't even feel badly about it nor am I one to smugly brag---just taking care of business.

 

[Ivywoods]

Pro gun? You betcha. Raised around guns, have hunted since I first begged and whined enough that dad would take me along. Love to hunt. Eat what I kill. Shoot a varmint? Yes, if necessary in my opinion. I don't eat the varmints, though.

Yes, I pack, collect, plink or anything else I can do. Hunter Education instructor.

Attempts to control and disarm this nation is a subject I can get pretty angry about. Read your history. What has happened to almost every nation, including our own when the colonists allowed the British to take their guns? Most were most were brutally and hearlessly murdered.

If you are not familiar with guns and are uncomfortable with them, I don't have a problem with that. Personally I get comfort and satisfaction out of knowing I can handle a gun well.

 

[EMaker]

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I agree! The right to bear arms should be protected!

 

[Lightfoote]

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x3!! Second Amendment all the way - because it secures the remainder of the Constitution against tyranny!

Lightfoote

 

[wyoDreamer]

I am pro-gun because I like them. Prabably helps that I grew up with them.

They are a joy to shoot and offer hours of entertainment at the gun range.
They bring beauty to my life, who doesn't love a walnut stock with a glossy finish.
They help me to bring food to my table. Venison, grouse, rabbit, ... yum.
They help me to protect what is mine from those that don't care enough to take care of their own predators (loose-running dogs and cats).
They are a security blanket in an unsecure world where the criminals have all the rights.

 

[Dogfish]

When the neighbor's dog had killed 2 hens, they offered to pay. I declined. The dog came over a month later and was stalking my CX in their tractor. I scared off the dog, and let them know they need to keep him clear of our property. My birds don't go on their property. Last week the same dog was over and killed a poult while I was inside the house. I heard this happen, grabbed a rifle, and took care of the issue. Strike #3.

They had their chance, and no I didn't tell them what happened. Don't feel the need to, and no, it isn't cowardly to do so. I could have been mean, gotten mad, and yelled at them at each loss or trespass, but I chose to be a bit more civilized than that. Telling them what happened would likely have the same impact as yelling at them for the first two intrusions.

It is not my job to contain or train their dog. If my dog went over and killed their cat, I wouldn't expect to have a dog anymore.

 

[dixiebeast]

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Sometimes claiming the deed can cause more problems. In most places it is legal to shoot a dog that is harassing your livestock, but it can still cause quite a problem with neighbors who may not agree. There are instances when it's best to just let the neighbors wonder what ever became of that dog than to make life-long enemies.

I wouldn't paint the topic with such a broad brush, there are always individual circumstances.

I disagree with this, heartily. If one cannot bear the problems associated with claiming the deed, then one shouldn't do the deed. Responsibility and accountability should be part of it, for both parties.

I have claimed the deed after calling animal control,paying a $200 vet bill for my dog that was contained, and getting bit on my own porch....guess who had to pay for the dead dog? Me..I now believe in the SSS after I have talked to owner,called animal control and feel it is my last recourse... I have a dog that is never tied or fenced(not the one injured) and in 13 years he has never left my yard,he is an animal and he knows better...it is possible...just saying.

I hate having to do that and I fully agree it should be the LAST CHOICE but sometimes you have to protect and shut up....I fear guns highly yet I own and can use all of them I have in my house...police protection is 30 mins away at best...

 

[sammy2]

after a predator injured my bird today (bobcat)

I am definitely pro gun-we have alot of em

I sure hope she lives

Next time that bobcat is going down (beautiful cat tho)

buh bye kitty

 

[Pele]

I'm pro-gun in a limited sense. I like the kind of gun that I can hunt with, protect my flock with, and defend myself with against home intruders for sure.

Not so happy about unbalanced crazies getting ahold of automatics and armor peircing stuff specifically designed to kill people. Makes me want to be a hermit!

 

[chickensbythesea]

I'm with EMaker, to a large extent. Guns aren't in and of themselves bad, but the SSS attitude is definitely part of what gets you gun lovers a bad rap.

The argument of "shutting up and shoveling avoids drama" is a load of poop. If I suspected my neighbor shot my dog and disposed of it, who I regard as a member of our family, I'd carry a burning hatred for them forever. I'm not an idiot, and would put together the neighbor who threatened to shoot my dog/shoots stray dogs, and mine going missing- you're probably not all that stealthy. If they had the decency to tell me, and offer me the chance to bury her with the rest of our pets, I'd still hate what they did, but I'd have some respect for them as a person at the end of the day. It takes a lot to admit when you've done something you know hurt someone, even if it was the right thing to do-- but if you can pull a trigger, you better be mature enough to have tough conversations.
Before people argue that I shouldn't let her out if she's a danger/ she should stay in the yard in general- in my individual case, on the rare chance she leaves our yard (always after her noise- she's a hound, and it's kinda their thing) she is harmless as a fly, but she thinks everything wants to be her friend, and will probably startle the crud out of you, because she is used to barging right into our flock to see what they got for treats.

I feel like there are a lot of ways to deter predators that aren't lethal, and that a lot of people are unwilling to utilize them because of perceived risk- better to make sure it's not able to hurt your animals than have any doubt. To me, deadly force is deadly force though- ending a life should mean something to you, no matter what animal. I have found that between the dog, an air horn, a secure coop and a paintball gun I've had no issues. I don't have qualms startling them and giving them a sore spot with a round or two of paint.