Arizona Chickens

[The Critter Place]

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Next question - Tammy would like to know what the justification for "organic apple cider vinegar" she says she has a chemical background and the vinegar is just an acid, is there any reason it must be organic or will the regular stuff work as well?

Ahh! There it is: Tammy's new hobby.

Buy several kinds of vinegars (organic and not, with mother and without), give each to a handfull of unvaccinated chicks for a predetermined time period (all chicks same breed from the same order of course), have a control group, and study!

Where are the incidences with cocci occuring?
What are other health issues observed?
Weight gain?
Start of egg production?
Lifespan?

This is Tammy's future PhD

. Or maybe she writes a book about "The Value of Correct Chicken Vinegaration"

Hey!
Great thinking! It would keep her busy.

 

[Tracydr]

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Are you rethinking the non medicated feed?

mikey, the stuff that is in medicated feed (amprolium)helps the chicks with coccidiosis when they hit the dirt. cocci is everywhere, it's a protozoa. the chicks eat the dirt, get overloaded with the protozoans and get sick. symtoms are looking chilled, ruffled feathers, head drawn in, bloody droopings(but not always), etc. then they need meds right away or they will surely not survive. meds like sulmet or corid. can be found at the feed store and put in their water.

for me, i almost always start my chicks on medicated feed until 6-8 weeks or until the bag runs out. i have terrible soil and every batch i have ever done has always gotten cocci.

antibiotics are diffrent for eggbound.....

I've actually never had chicks with cocci. It's so strange that I've never had to deal with it. I wonder if I've been lucky or there is something I do different? I never use medicated feed, either. Never have, in 25+ years. I wouldn't want to be eating a Cornish X at 8 weeks of age who had medicated feed. This is living in three states, raising lots of home incubated and hatchery chicks. I also had guineas and peafowl.

 

[Tracydr]

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I had a D'Uccle roo from McMurray as an exotic extra. I could tell he was a roo at about 3 weeks and he crowed at 4 weeks. He was a real early bloomer.

 

[Beckyhsinglsc]

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I'm not making any claims. I'm just saying I use it and I haven't had any problems. I'm hoping that opening my mouth won't change that.

Where's the knock on wood smiley?

 

[Mikey D]

GROWTH!!!

This fatty weigh 2-1/2 lbs at 4 weeks (used an un-calibrated shipping scale)
HOLY CROW! from 3-4 oz to 40 oz in FOUR WEEKS?!?!?!
These things emptied the feeder between last night and this afternoon!
Just imagine if they could live for 3-4 months instead of 8-10 weeks - they be the size of a garbage can!

And for Meg-Moringa-seed...
2 of 11 have sprouted. This one's even got a few leaves on it!
Figures 2 of the 6 Meg planted sprouted - 0 of the 5 "Black Thumb Mikey" sprouted

 

[Mikey D]

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Next question - Tammy would like to know what the justification for "organic apple cider vinegar" she says she has a chemical background and the vinegar is just an acid, is there any reason it must be organic or will the regular stuff work as well?

Ahh! There it is: Tammy's new hobby.

Buy several kinds of vinegars (organic and not, with mother and without), give each to a handfull of unvaccinated chicks for a predetermined time period (all chicks same breed from the same order of course), have a control group, and study!

Where are the incidences with cocci occuring?
What are other health issues observed?
Weight gain?
Start of egg production?
Lifespan?

This is Tammy's future PhD

. Or maybe she writes a book about "The Value of Correct Chicken Vinegaration"

AWESOME! She' is sitting here working on her thesis, laughing, and tell'n ya'll that she hates writing this one!

"The Value of Correct Chicken Vinegaration"
That's beautiful!

 

[Tracydr]

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Are they feral or stray? - big difference. I have a stray cat living on my front porch/garage right now that somebody dumped. She's friendly and meows for attention and food.
We also have a few feral cats in the neighborhood that do not like human contact at all and run when they see you.
Feral cats are really a pain. There are no no-kill rescue organizations I know of that will take them. I've tried. (They won't even take my friendly porch cat right now.)
There is one organization that will trap, neuter and re-release if you promise to feed them.
If you take them to the pound or humane society they will charge you to leave them there and they will probably be euthanized anyway. I don't think they adopt out feral cats.

Just found out Maricopa does a trap and release program for feral cats. This is good. They trap, neuter and release. Considering the recent population explosion in our neighborhood, something needs to be done. I have the contact information and am going to get them to help. I used to do this in OK on my own and it seriously decreased the numbers of feral cats. Trapping and euthanizing causes a "vacuum" effect, which I noticed when I was taking everything to the pound, so I started neutering all the males and releasing them.
Now, I just have to figure out how to keep them out of my yard.

 

[The Critter Place]

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Ahh! There it is: Tammy's new hobby.

Buy several kinds of vinegars (organic and not, with mother and without), give each to a handfull of unvaccinated chicks for a predetermined time period (all chicks same breed from the same order of course), have a control group, and study!

Where are the incidences with cocci occuring?
What are other health issues observed?
Weight gain?
Start of egg production?
Lifespan?

This is Tammy's future PhD

. Or maybe she writes a book about "The Value of Correct Chicken Vinegaration"

AWESOME! She' is sitting here working on her thesis, laughing, and tell'n ya'll that she hates writing this one!

"The Value of Correct Chicken Vinegaration"
That's beautiful!

Well that's great we can make her laugh in the middle of a miserable paper!

 

[Tracydr]

Here's a picture of the chicks outside today. Notice the size discrepency between the cornish chicks that are two weeks apart. Quite a difference? Also, check out the difference between the red broilers, production reds and Cornish Xs.

They were panting in the heat today, when it was only 81 degrees! Poor things.

 

[Tracydr]

OOPs! Meant to post this picture

Edited about 15 times and I think I finally got the picture right!