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Next question - Tammy would like to know what the justification for "organic apple cider vinegar" she says she has a chemical background and the vinegar is just an acid, is there any reason it must be organic or will the regular stuff work as well?

Ahh! There it is: Tammy's new hobby.

Buy several kinds of vinegars (organic and not, with mother and without), give each to a handfull of unvaccinated chicks for a predetermined time period (all chicks same breed from the same order of course), have a control group, and study!

Where are the incidences with cocci occuring?
What are other health issues observed?
Weight gain?
Start of egg production?
Lifespan?

This is Tammy's future PhD
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. Or maybe she writes a book about "The Value of Correct Chicken Vinegaration"

Love the title. You KNOW it will become a New York Times Bestseller!
 
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I'm starting to suspect I have 2 roos of the 6.
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One of the sex-links (believe it or not) and one of the PRs.
The sex link has all white feathers coming in on the body and only red in the wings and shoulders. The PR is getting tiny little red wattles but it was the first to feather.
Does anybody know at what age PRs cockerels combs redden? Mine are 4 weeks yesterday.

Oh, no Becky. That's horrible! The Ideal sexer guy must have been drinking that day. I'm so confused as to who's who now with the extra packing peanuts and I think Mikey and I got a little mixed up on ours, although, it now looks as though I actually have about 6 red broilers like I should and maybe 2 red production pullets? I'm not sure though. There's a lot of chicks moving around now that I added the younger ones and a lot of them are red. I'm just starting to be able to tell the cockerels from the pullets, not positive but sort of sure.

How are you judging the sex of your PRs? Sometimes there is just one that matures faster and I "panic" and think "roo".
Here are my PRs, it's kind of hard to see the wattles in the picture
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and the GSLs
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Well, those GSLs sure don't look the same, do they? I can't believe they messed up a sex link breed. I would say they should at least be able to replace that chick for you. I'm not sure that those two reds are both pullets, though.
I'm still not sure I have the production reds sorted out, although I'm gettting there. I'm thinking about putting them in a big tub tomorrow and going through them all, sorting and really taking a good look at each red chick, trying to figure out what's what.
 
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Next question - Tammy would like to know what the justification for "organic apple cider vinegar" she says she has a chemical background and the vinegar is just an acid, is there any reason it must be organic or will the regular stuff work as well?

Does not need to be organic, unless you plan to make your own vinegar, it doesn't need the mother. The primary reason that it helps prevent coccidiosis is that it makes the intestinal environment more acidic, and therefore less favorable. I'm honestly not certain that any kind of vinegar would not work equally well at this. However, the ACV does have vitamins and minerals that are missing in distilled white vinegar. In my experience, if you purchase at a big box store like Target or Walmart, the "ACV" tends to be flavoured, not actually made with apple cider. That purchased in grocery stores tends to be the real stuff. I am not a huge fan of organic. I don't MIND it, but I realize that natural things are not always good for people or animals, and synthetic ones are not necessarily bad. I am a big proponent of moderation and common sense.

I am getting to like it pretty well when you come up with 2 cents to toss....

Just saying....
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NEWS FLASH!!!

COOP IS PAINTED!!!!
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Roof and chickens tomorrow. Picts to follow (after dinner @ Chileros - Brown and Ellsworth - tell 'em Mikey sent you!)
 
Does anyone want a lavender project orpington roo for $20? He is 5 months old and HUGE.
And, does anyone want an aloha project rooster for free?
 
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Awesome news flash!

I cant get over how much the chicks have grown!

If they were stinky, Tammy should have thrown them in the tub with the grand babies.
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