Arizona Chickens

Hi Everyone,
I will be new to chickens. I have been doing research, reading books and dropping in here for the last year...yes, I have been waiting THAT long! We are closing on a house at the end of the month which is on half an acre in Mesa, AZ and the first thing I want to do is bring home some chicks.
I already have coop plans and am purchasing materials to get it made.

My questions are:
1. I am considering Brahma, Ameraucana, Delaware, Naked Neck, & Buff Orpinton's. I am looking for good layers that are heat hardy and will be docile and calm with my 5 children....am I headed in the right direction?
2. I would much rather buy from a breeder than a hatchery and was looking for recommendations in the phoenix area (I would be willing to travel 1+ hours).

Anything else I should know?
Thanks!!!

i have brahmas and mine are extremely calm. they are almost regal, i love them. then hens are decent layers, but i did lose one recently just not sure if it was heat related - probably so. my BO is a cross but she is a good layer and friendly but doesnt like to be held, have also lost one of those to heat. i have had delawares and they were kid friendly, no heat losses. as far as heat hardy i dont think it matters so much on the breed, just on the particular bird and their adaptability. All in all i think you are looking in the right direction :) now, as far as breeders go. cant help you there.
have fun with your new house and chicken adventure!
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re brahmas - my rooster is from a breeder but not SQ... the hens are hatchery, and are HALF his size. so yea, a breeder will definitely get you some huge birds (but oh so lovely to look at, lol)
 
Our old house had a very prolific fig tree--but it was very difficult to harvest the figs before the birds and bugs got to them. We never had a problem with it freezing.
It seems like everything likes figs. You're right, it's a battle against time to get them before the birds and bugs. In the past three days or so Japanese beetles have been showing up. Fortunately, they cluster on very specific figs. I think that a female finds a ripe fig to eat and then males are attracted to her pheromones. The clustering makes it quite easy to gather up 50 or more in a single swoop with a jar and lid. The chickens are loving them!
Green June Beetle or Green Fig Beetle, they are eatable. . . . Sadly not in my culinary heritage. Anybody wants to try one, tell me how it is, you remove wings and legs, I think you cook them.?
 
well... they found the garden. To this point they've been sticking to under the bushes and the grass because they only have like 1/2 hour to explore at a time, but today I laid out in the grass with them for an hour and let them roam a bit more. We have tons of spiders in the grass near the garden so they got really excited at first, luckily they didn't get too carried away eating all my veggies. Then they lost interest after 5 minutes and walked away. They have the smallest attention spans.
Very nice... Thanks for sharing
 
Our old house had a very prolific fig tree--but it was very difficult to harvest the figs before the birds and bugs got to them.  We never had a problem with it freezing.


Love to eat figs, so does our flock.. We have fabulous neighbors that have given us permission to harvet at anytime.. I do
hope we have a few more weeks of fig season... The only thing I personally don't like is clean up.. When they drop it is work..
the larger leaves.. No thanks.. Glad to have neighbors for the compementary figs... :)
 
Hi Everyone,
I will be new to chickens.  I have been doing research, reading books and dropping in here for the last year...yes, I have been waiting THAT long!  We are closing on a house at the end of the month which is on half an acre in Mesa, AZ and the first thing I want to do is bring home some chicks.
I already have coop plans and am purchasing materials to get it made.

My questions are:
1. I am considering Brahma, Ameraucana, Delaware, Naked Neck, & Buff Orpinton's.  I am looking for good layers that are heat hardy and will be docile and calm with my 5 children....am I headed in the right direction?
2.  I would much rather buy from a breeder than a hatchery and was looking for recommendations in the phoenix area (I would be willing to travel 1+ hours).

Anything else I should know?
Thanks!!!


So far our Brahma & Ameraucana that you have listed have done fine for us..can't wait to hear what you decide to get..
WELCOME to BACK YARD CHICKEN PLUS other good info..;)
 
Green June Beetle or Green Fig Beetle, they are eatable. . . . Sadly not in my culinary heritage. Anybody wants to try one, tell me how it is, you remove wings and legs, I think you cook them.?

It always interests me in the geographical differences of what people call things, once something gets a name, it often sticks. Like Sonoran Silkies, to me the June bug is the smaller brown beetle, which is what everyone called it where ever I lived east of the Mississippi. After I read your post it got me to thinking, and googling--I'd never heard of either the Green June Beetle or the Green fig beetle. It turns out that you are correct, LKD. The beetles in the pic are not Japanese Beetles (Popillia japonica) as I've heard from so many people here locally, but the Figeater beetle (Cotinis mutabilis). Indeed, as Kev indicated, it's known locally in the southwest as a "June bug." To complicate things just a bit, there is a very closely related beetle that looks much like the figeater called the Green June Bug (Cotinis nitida), which is generally found in the eastern half of the US. I learned something new today.

I think I'll pass on eating them.
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Hi Everyone,
I will be new to chickens. I have been doing research, reading books and dropping in here for the last year...yes, I have been waiting THAT long! We are closing on a house at the end of the month which is on half an acre in Mesa, AZ and the first thing I want to do is bring home some chicks.
I already have coop plans and am purchasing materials to get it made.

My questions are:
1. I am considering Brahma, Ameraucana, Delaware, Naked Neck, & Buff Orpinton's. I am looking for good layers that are heat hardy and will be docile and calm with my 5 children....am I headed in the right direction?
2. I would much rather buy from a breeder than a hatchery and was looking for recommendations in the phoenix area (I would be willing to travel 1+ hours).

Anything else I should know?
Thanks!!!

Welcome to the Forum!

I can't vouch for any of those breeds except the Ameraucana in terms of heat heartiness. My four Ameraucanas appear to be panting more often than any of my other breeds, except maybe my turkeys. They are still fairly young and aren't even laying yet, so I think it's a bad sign. From reading so far, it appears that particular breed is not as heat-friendly as many of the others, although several on this thread keep them successfully. No idea on the others. Every one of my breeds have been extremely docile and friendly, especially if you have food. Truth be told, the flock is my 16-month old daughters. She has to check on them several times a day and is always with me for feeding and closing the coop. For about the last year, they have gathered around her when she sits in the yard and they'll come up to greet her. The only problem we had was when she had a grape in her hand and our Birchen wanted it. My baby ended up with a scrape down the length of her finger with the beak. There were no problems, though and both were amiable immediately afterwards.

I can tell you my Barred Rocks are hatchery and you can tell. They are still very excellent layers, only slacking off in this heat, but I still get four or five a week out of each of them. My Birchen Marans is breeder quality and definitely shows it. She is larger and much more beautiful. She is a very consistent layer as well, laying 13 eggs every two weeks during all but the hottest of weather so far. Both these breeds have been very heat tolerant and haven't been in distress. My Black Copper Marans and New Hampshires are not laying yet, but they are breeder quality and also significantly larger and more regal. I would not trade those for the world.

You can check with DesertMarcy for the Black Copper Marans. She's in Tucson, but they were an excellent quality and worth the drive! I would get ahold of CbNovick and find out where she got her New Hampshires. I don't think she was breeding them for sale, but we got some of her extras. They are gorgeous, too.


To minimize the heat and related losses, I personally have come to think that having a grassy yard is the single best solution. Even during the hottest of our weeks, my clan was still out free-ranging. They cool themselves through their feet, so if the grass is 20*-30* cooler than the ambient air, it is hugely beneficial to them. Grass does not have to be expensive. Once it's a developed lawn, it really doesn't take much care. I generally water mine every week or two, closer to two, and mow once or twice a week depending on it's growth. My water bill went up about $15 to $20 when I started consistently watering the lawn. Other than that, I haven't done anything extra. They love the bugs they find in it and they eat the grass, too. I actually just ordered a Chicken Forage Blend of organic grass that will be put down for winter. The seller said they live in Tennessee and have friends in New Mexico. Both locations have grown well year round, so hopefully it will here, too. It's a much more rounded nutritious blend, having nearly a dozen different blends. Something to think about if you have to start your yard from scratch.

You can get organic feed at a discounted price from Phoenix Organic Feed. They have a large selection and it seems to be between $5 and $10 less per bag than buying at the commercial feed shops. I find mine eat less of this fermented than they did the old fermented feed, so it was a bonus that way, too. They order every two months and it's delivered the beginning of the following months. Delivery is on your side of town, too.

Hope all that helps!
 
On an exciting note, I think one of my Black Coppers started laying today. The right egg is my Birchen Marans' egg from this morning. The left is a significantly smaller one from this evening. I understand they can have oops eggs, so I am hoping they are both from the Birchen. I am hoping for the really dark chocolate eggs out of my Coppers. We'll see... I'm not interested enough to do the food coloring test, though!

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