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Bcluff, did you mean self sufficiency like demo gave you ideas for, or income earning?
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We did this a few weeks ago and it was ok. Overall, I'd say it was worth the $10.00. The canteloupe was bruised outside, but delicious inside. The watermelon tasted like dirt, so I am turning it in to 5 gallons of wine. I'm not holding out great hope for the taste, but hey, it's worth a shot. The pickling cucumbers were great and are currently pickling for hamburger pickles, dill pickles and fermented pickles. The cucumbers were good, too. The green beans started going bad almost immediately and I couldn't can them fast enough, so expect to use them up quickly or give them to the flock. I might be willing to go for just an entire order of produce to freeze for the flock during summer. That would make it much more worth it.
If you have one, take some sort of rolling dolly or cart, like the small collapsible luggage ones. The weight adds up and the boxes are bulky. I would not recommend bags, but if you have milk crates to use, they work great. We usually work that morning every week, so I've only made it to one event. I'd be willing to go again, but I'll be more selective on my choices next time. They don't actually weigh the items, so you may get more or less than 60 pounds. They were basically trying to get rid of the watermelon and pickling cucumbers, so we ended up with a great deal more.
Oh, and get there about an hour early. The line had apparently started forming very early and it took an hour to get in and park.
We did this a few weeks ago and it was ok. Overall, I'd say it was worth the $10.00. The canteloupe was bruised outside, but delicious inside. The watermelon tasted like dirt, so I am turning it in to 5 gallons of wine. I'm not holding out great hope for the taste, but hey, it's worth a shot. The pickling cucumbers were great and are currently pickling for hamburger pickles, dill pickles and fermented pickles. The cucumbers were good, too. The green beans started going bad almost immediately and I couldn't can them fast enough, so expect to use them up quickly or give them to the flock. I might be willing to go for just an entire order of produce to freeze for the flock during summer. That would make it much more worth it.
If you have one, take some sort of rolling dolly or cart, like the small collapsible luggage ones. The weight adds up and the boxes are bulky. I would not recommend bags, but if you have milk crates to use, they work great. We usually work that morning every week, so I've only made it to one event. I'd be willing to go again, but I'll be more selective on my choices next time. They don't actually weigh the items, so you may get more or less than 60 pounds. They were basically trying to get rid of the watermelon and pickling cucumbers, so we ended up with a great deal more.
Oh, and get there about an hour early. The line had apparently started forming very early and it took an hour to get in and park.
Demosthine said it very well in few words then I could. Put a mind set to transferable knowledge . You may be surprised.
I have two different flint type lighters, one a Boy Scout flint and and steel. Pay attention to chemistry in school. A good book to basic understanding is "the Disappearing Spoon" available in audio. This will help open your eyes to possibility thinking. Hand-on is best. It took me at lest 60 hours to make my first fire with a bow. I had to learn on my own what materials to look for. Wood verbs a lot. Learning this, I was able to build a fire in a light rain, I know what was still dry. Learn fire, starting from the member into ablaze. Next lesson......
I sought out experience and knowledge from 3rd world immigrants. Talking to Navaho, I learned that they think little of our fire skills, we are wasteful. At a party for a for a high ranking guest from The Congo, I learned a new meaning.... First get the goat
The we on at her at day break, we gott the goats, the 3 "white chicken". (Had to be white, very rare in Central Africa, white symbolic of honor and sacrifice to an honored guest). The guest had to be there to select the goats, proof that you are serving healthy fat goats, then that they were butchered respectfully. I learned we throw out some of the best parts on the animal.
I'm 67, and less then 30 years ago I made the decision that I have to change my mind thought on what is food. We are one of the few nations that do not eat insects. We do not eat food that is not pretty. Snake, snails, and reptiles are also food. Learn how to fix them, and make them delicious. I have a lot of problem with insects. I learned what the insect eats is 100% important. I as of yet, had a cricket I like, the first one is still in my mind. It had an ammonia type taste that went up my noise. On the other hand, the grasshopper was salty and tasted like crunchy bacon. It was cooked in bacon fat, that may have a lot to do with it. I still can't get a meal worm in my mouth. Organ meats no problem, I now actually like the jody like consistency of tendons. I am thinking of snails as a good food source.
Snails are easy to raise, the Apple Snails are all over. Be aware the they are a host to many parasites, if from wild, do not eat your starter stock. They too carry the flavor of what they eat. Feed them herbs and plants if you like to taste of, at the end you need to isolated them with no food for at least 6-7 days. Then give them carrot. When their droppings are orange, they are ready to cook. I had frozen snails and didn't like it, my friend, who fixed them, didn't like them ether. ADVICE: on new foods, clear your mind of expectations, find the best of what ever it is, handled and prepared correctly. Other wise you will have problems trying it again. I didn't know this, when I eat snails the first time or crickets...... As for tranchula's I am scared of spiders..... The same for scorpions, I have to get over it.
PS: for some reason over the years my family is afraid of what I may serve them..... They always ask. Rule for them is beware of soups, stews or any dish with out recognizable meats.
I have two different flint type lighters, one a Boy Scout flint and and steel. Pay attention to chemistry in school. A good book to basic understanding is "the Disappearing Spoon" available in audio. This will help open your eyes to possibility thinking. Hand-on is best. It took me at lest 60 hours to make my first fire with a bow. I had to learn on my own what materials to look for. Wood verbs a lot. Learning this, I was able to build a fire in a light rain, I know what was still dry. Learn fire, starting from the member into ablaze. Next lesson......
I sought out experience and knowledge from 3rd world immigrants. Talking to Navaho, I learned that they think little of our fire skills, we are wasteful. At a party for a for a high ranking guest from The Congo, I learned a new meaning.... First get the goat
The we on at her at day break, we gott the goats, the 3 "white chicken". (Had to be white, very rare in Central Africa, white symbolic of honor and sacrifice to an honored guest). The guest had to be there to select the goats, proof that you are serving healthy fat goats, then that they were butchered respectfully. I learned we throw out some of the best parts on the animal. I'm 67, and less then 30 years ago I made the decision that I have to change my mind thought on what is food. We are one of the few nations that do not eat insects. We do not eat food that is not pretty. Snake, snails, and reptiles are also food. Learn how to fix them, and make them delicious. I have a lot of problem with insects. I learned what the insect eats is 100% important. I as of yet, had a cricket I like, the first one is still in my mind. It had an ammonia type taste that went up my noise. On the other hand, the grasshopper was salty and tasted like crunchy bacon. It was cooked in bacon fat, that may have a lot to do with it. I still can't get a meal worm in my mouth. Organ meats no problem, I now actually like the jody like consistency of tendons. I am thinking of snails as a good food source.
Snails are easy to raise, the Apple Snails are all over. Be aware the they are a host to many parasites, if from wild, do not eat your starter stock. They too carry the flavor of what they eat. Feed them herbs and plants if you like to taste of, at the end you need to isolated them with no food for at least 6-7 days. Then give them carrot. When their droppings are orange, they are ready to cook. I had frozen snails and didn't like it, my friend, who fixed them, didn't like them ether. ADVICE: on new foods, clear your mind of expectations, find the best of what ever it is, handled and prepared correctly. Other wise you will have problems trying it again. I didn't know this, when I eat snails the first time or crickets...... As for tranchula's I am scared of spiders..... The same for scorpions, I have to get over it.
PS: for some reason over the years my family is afraid of what I may serve them..... They always ask. Rule for them is beware of soups, stews or any dish with out recognizable meats.
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Demosthine said it very well in few words then I could. Put a mind set to transferable knowledge . You may be surprised.
I have two different flint type lighters, one a Boy Scout flint and and steel. Pay attention to chemistry in school. A good book to basic understanding is "the Disappearing Spoon" available in audio. This will help open your eyes to possibility thinking. Hand-on is best. It took me at lest 60 hours to make my first fire with a bow. I had to learn on my own what materials to look for. Wood verbs a lot. Learning this, I was able to build a fire in a light rain, I know what was still dry. Learn fire, starting from the member into ablaze. Next lesson......
I sought out experience and knowledge from 3rd world immigrants. Talking to Navaho, I learned that they think little of our fire skills, we are wasteful. At a party for a for a high ranking guest from The Congo, I learned a new meaning.... First get the goatThe we on at her at day break, we gott the goats, the 3 "white chicken". (Had to be white, very rare in Central Africa, white symbolic of honor and sacrifice to an honored guest). The guest had to be there to select the goats, proof that you are serving healthy fat goats, then that they were butchered respectfully. I learned we throw out some of the best parts on the animal.
I'm 67, and less then 30 years ago I made the decision that I have to change my mind thought on what is food. We are one of the few nations that do not eat insects. We do not eat food that is not pretty. Snake, snails, and reptiles are also food. Learn how to fix them, and make them delicious. I have a lot of problem with insects. I learned what the insect eats is 100% important. I as of yet, had a cricket I like, the first one is still in my mind. It had an ammonia type taste that went up my noise. On the other hand, the grasshopper was salty and tasted like crunchy bacon. It was cooked in bacon fat, that may have a lot to do with it. I still can't get a meal worm in my mouth. Organ meats no problem, I now actually like the jody like consistency of tendons. I am thinking of snails as a good food source.
Snails are easy to raise, the Apple Snails are all over. Be aware the they are a host to many parasites, if from wild, do not eat your starter stock. They too carry the flavor of what they eat. Feed them herbs and plants if you like to taste of, at the end you need to isolated them with no food for at least 6-7 days. Then give them carrot. When their droppings are orange, they are ready to cook. I had frozen snails and didn't like it, my friend, who fixed them, didn't like them ether. ADVICE: on new foods, clear your mind of expectations, find the best of what ever it is, handled and prepared correctly. Other wise you will have problems trying it again. I didn't know this, when I eat snails the first time or crickets...... As for tranchula's I am scared of spiders..... The same for scorpions, I have to get over it.
PS: for some reason over the years my family is afraid of what I may serve them..... They always ask. Rule for them is beware of soups, stews or any dish with out recognizable meats.
I think I'd rather go vegetarian than eat bugs... and I'm pretty sure I'm closer to a carnivore than a vegetarian. (really I'm closer to a carbavore
) . That being said the first couple of times I got talked into snails I thought I might as well chew on my shoe, and the shoe might be tastier, but after that I went to a nice restaurant and had them... They were SO MUCH better. They a nice earthy (not overpowering) flavor and didn't have the consistency of rubber. So it doesn't really surprise me that what they eat, where they come from, AND how things are prepared makes a huge difference. I don't see myself raising snails at any time in the near future ( i buy the dried meal worm chicken treats for hecks sake), but (as odd as this sounds) I like the info. 
Learned something new today.
Congrats on first egg!First Buttercup egg found in the nest this morning! It's so small and cute and pink!
Compared to an EE egg from yesterday.
I am going to be ordering some meat birds within the next few weeks. If anyone wants in on the order let me know or if you want some ready to eat birds in about 10 weeks let me know as well and I will raise and process them for you.
Tim
Tim
Timskins: I would love it. First see what is in my budget. How much feed do they require? I would love at lest 10, I will help butcher them and yours. It is easyer when not alone, and ...... Well.... What I want is chicken livers. I do not know if it is even Possable to get good livers out of them. I have thought of just getting a bunch of barn yard mix, butcher early and small birds. Eating for one, a small bird would work. I have discovered I am one of those that can cut the throat of a stranger, but very hard to cut the throat of someone I know. I didn't expect that.
Maybe New Jersey Giant, if they grow faster. But I am sure they would still be boney.
Maybe New Jersey Giant, if they grow faster. But I am sure they would still be boney.
I'm curious if any other AZ chicken parents have seen a decrease in egg production since the weather changed a couple weeks ago? One of my EE girls hasn't laid but ONE egg in the last week while the other has been every OTHER day instead of daily like before. My Buttercup started laying today so I'm confused. The EEs were born in April so I don't think they are old enough to be molting...
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Mostly it is the day length. Expect few eggs from now to the end of Feb, then beginning in March things will pick. Most usual the older birds slow down and molt in the fall, I have a number of pullets hatched in April and their laying is down, most likely due to the day length. You will occasionally have a bird that lays all winter, or at least lays more than the others.
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