Handsome, I'll pass the word out.. A DF in my neighborhood might... We used to have a dude that had a no crow collar, never made a peep.. Now Clair tries to crow.. Yes our hen Clair, she is a banty girl.. We are down to 3 chicken's, it's duck'O'ramma here.. Plus the duck egg's are so much bigger, they lay as much as the chicken's do, love the water feature. We recycle the water in ther garden.. Such a bonus those duck's..