I have said the same before...should be listed how much experience in hatching on a hatch threadYou must not have seen my updated posts, the chick died while I was chipping the shell away. I don't think it would have lived, even if I had helped sooner. I have deleted those posts so it won't be so confusing for the people getting up this morning trying to catch up on this thread.
On the positive side, I am pretty sure I have fixed the problem. First is to stop letting people convince me to change something I feel is right. Since I am fairly new to hatching I am easily convinced I am doing something wrong even though I have spent a ridiculous number of hours researching it. Practical experience is always more helpful. Most people have very good information but there are also some dangerous ones that just want to throw their 2 cents in. I can not always tell the difference until it is too late. Pretending to be knowledgeable on a topic can cause harm. Remember people listen to what you say. Expeience is what people are looking for when they ask questions. I PM'd the bad advice people and a few times they have even admitted to not ever having owned chickens.(but they really want some) To those of you that have chickens and years of experience, thank you for sharing. Is there a place where the number of years experience could be added, maybe next to the name? That would help in deciding weather or not to use someone's advice. I'm sure I am not the only one that has been affected by bad advice givers.
Again thank you to those who are not talking out of your hiney. I appreciate it very much.
BUT remember ...Some ppl have had chickens a long time... and have NOT hatched before ever...
Some new ppl do put in their 2 cents and other new ppl assume they have had experience Makes me cringe when isee one and I usually will put my own 2 cents in to give another opinion.
Be nice if someone with no real knowledged would say" im new to this too but...... my GUESS is ..."
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DO take replies with a grain of salt.
They are to give you ideas not to tell you you HAVE to do this thing.... whatever it is
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Or go by more than ONE persons reply on here is better
Don't go on ONE reply unless its someone with a lot of knowledge ...Sumi is one with a lot of knowledge
A few of us are like me ...have maybe 50-60 hatches under our belts. so we have gone thru a lot of things you run into during hatch ...butthere is awalys a new thing you havent seen too..
In fact PM Sumi if you arent sure Im sure she would be happy to respond.
You have to decide YOUSELF though in the end waht you want to try and when in the end .
.And if you decide to... and it goes wrong.... its a learning experience a bad one but you wont do it again.
Evreryone will have some mistakes you make and kick yourselffor fele lyoukilled achiks over it... ...some real bad experiences but if you are going t o hatch chicks it happens,
So If it sounds right do it
If you are leery DONT....
AND ALWAYS. a less drastic approach is the best approach. Always can do something later..... but once done its done its too late.
Better t o wait a bit and see how it goes than rush in and help a chick out.
Some die waiting to hatch true but much better than to kill a healthy chick by trying to assist too early
I dont think im the only one whos been on here a while who would tell you that either
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If you help too early it kills them . PERIOD
Open an egg and they have just a pip no more ...they have to take hours sometimes..... to ajust their lungs to air ..let the egg veins dry up, let the yolk absorb A lot goes on .
To jump in too early until all that is done and it ALL happens during hatch..... they wont live.
Why a very cautious approach is MUCH better
You FEEL like helping as they seem to struggle and they DO but its part of the hatch.process
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If they have pipped and are getting air .......to be in the shell wont kill them.
The membrane may dry but they wont die from it Will need to be taken out maybe but not die... Some weakness or problem internally might kill them maybe they cant breath immature lungs so die in hatch ...but just to wait wont unless you wait 3 days and they have been pipped all that time in one spot or some long time where they are running out of food and water internally
Some die in hatch .that's a given They would not have lived anyway .I find about 1/4 or more assisted have something wrong. anddie later or are crippled .....its natures way to give them a hard way to come into the world prove they are strong enough to make it In the world
SAD but true Some are shrink wrapped or in wrong position maybe shel l too small Those will live with assist but you cant know until you try
Just dont try too early . Biggest clue ....if there is blood AT ALL...its TOO early Leave it be for hours... 1./2 a day
Always sad to loose one but inevitable.
Dont beat yourself up. and dont totally listen to others
This reply is NOT just for you but to ALL new hatchers
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