Australia - Six states..and that funny little island.

[Fancychooklady]

XD  Thank you Steampunked.  Your anger is actually quite reassuring.  This isn't something that many of my friends (not being in the position of keeping animals that they have to treat) understand.  Including this woman.

I'm actually studying at the moment with the intention of becoming a veterinarian and have always been extremely interested in medicine.  It's not even scary for me.  It's a little nerve wracking but it's also incredibly enjoyable for me because SCIENCE!  Still, I never do it unless I have to.  My animals' welfare comes first and foremost.

There's certainly no clauses on my rental agreement as I own my property.  

That's a great idea regarding calling the RSPCA for any relevant legal information.  I can't imagine that they'd have a problem with me wanting to be well informed.  Thanks for that suggestion!

What gets me is that if I suddenly decide that I simply don't like one of my chickens I can just chop its head off perfectly legally.  Try to keep it alive? Neglect. SMH.

With friends like her , who needs enemies? I'm sure that if you were to make your way through the miles of red tape and council by laws , you will find something pertaining to preservation of the animals welfare. I can assure you that if we had to wait for a vet to arrive here, 9/10 the animal would be in serious trouble by the time he/she showed up. We often have to use our own initiative.

 

[cluckcluckluke]

Just finished 5 days work experience at Sydneys Taronga Zoo which was amazing.
They had 'Red Jungle Fowl' at the zoo. Does anyone know if they actually would be RJF?! To me they just look like red brested game fowl. I'll upload some photos later.
I thought we didn't have any in Aus!?

 

[cwrite]

Just finished 5 days work experience at Sydneys Taronga Zoo which was amazing.
They had 'Red Jungle Fowl' at the zoo. Does anyone know if they actually would be RJF?! To me they just look like red brested game fowl. I'll upload some photos later.
I thought we didn't have any in Aus!?

No idea about the RJF, but that sounds like a great experience. I wanted to be a game ranger for years, but at the time I finished school females were not allowed & by the time I finished uni they were. And no, I'm not ancient.

 

[AussieChics]

Found this beauty today. Jad to get my son to get it cos I couldn't bend down but gees poor girl lol

 

[Nu2chooks15]

Hi, can anyone answer this.

While out at dinner tonight some were saying how mean nasty and down right cantankerous RIR's are. Now as I'm just getting over my issue with birds/chickens I thought I'd ask elsewhere in case they were just teasing me not realising my previous experience. All the information I've seen shows the hens as being people friendly (not necessarily the roos).

Hoping to get unbiased info here as I'd rather know beforehand as I can change my order (as it's family) and not get them if there's any chance they'll get mean/nasty pecking at me.

Thanking you all in advance.

 

[vehve]

Peekaboo!

Fancy, these being Marans crosses (wheaten and cuckoo in the mix), what do you think of the difference in comb development between the dark and light ones? Here's a pic of Flappy, our patient, also taken today.

While the combs on the light ones are pretty developed, the difference in comparison to the dark ones makes me rethink by guess of everyone being a boy.

And Tandy, nice to hear you got that mess cleared up. I agree, call them and ask them what laws they think apply. I don't see how basic wound care could be considered illegal - except for maybe the use of certain medications that might be banned from poultry use (my anti-antibiotic rant is almost starting again

).

 

[vehve]

Hi, can anyone answer this.

While out at dinner tonight some were saying how mean nasty and down right cantankerous RIR's are. Now as I'm just getting over my issue with birds/chickens I thought I'd ask elsewhere in case they were just teasing me not realising my previous experience. All the information I've seen shows the hens as being people friendly (not necessarily the roos).

Hoping to get unbiased info here as I'd rather know beforehand as I can change my order (as it's family) and not get them if there's any chance they'll get mean/nasty pecking at me.

Thanking you all in advance.

I'd say that what I've read about RIR:s, in general they're considered nastier than many other breeds, but many people have very people friendly RIR:s too. I'm guessing it's a bit of a stereotype - in reality the birds are individuals and the surroundings they're kept in probably affect their behavioral development too. This isn't based on any personal experience with the breed. What I can say from personal experience, is that Sussexes, which everyone says are people friendly and great birds, are very nasty birds in my opinion. Mean to other birds, and afraid of people.

 

[Nu2chooks15]

I'd say that what I've read about RIR:s, in general they're considered nastier than many other breeds, but many people have very people friendly RIR:s too. I'm guessing it's a bit of a stereotype - in reality the birds are individuals and the surroundings they're kept in probably affect their behavioral development too. This isn't based on any personal experience with the breed. What I can say from personal experience, is that Sussexes, which everyone says are people friendly and great birds, are very nasty birds in my opinion. Mean to other birds, and afraid of people.

Thanks Vehve, I appreciate you sharing this with me. I might need to rethink this breed as I don't want to go back to where I was before.

 

[cluckcluckluke]

Quote: Oh it was fantastic!
Females not allowed, preposterous!?!

Hi, can anyone answer this.

While out at dinner tonight some were saying how mean nasty and down right cantankerous RIR's are. Now as I'm just getting over my issue with birds/chickens I thought I'd ask elsewhere in case they were just teasing me not realising my previous experience. All the information I've seen shows the hens as being people friendly (not necessarily the roos).

Hoping to get unbiased info here as I'd rather know beforehand as I can change my order (as it's family) and not get them if there's any chance they'll get mean/nasty pecking at me.

Thanking you all in advance.

If you are buying just 'normal' RIR's from a 'normal' source/breeder then its most likely going to depend on the individual for temperament (however you can get breeders who will breed for less aggressive birds), but RIR's, as a breed, do tend to be a little more pushy than others. It's not necessarily them being nasty they are just more of a dominant breed. All the RIR's Ive had have always been the top hens and the one rooster I owned did attack people that didn't visit the chicken pen regularly.
Your not going to 100% get an answer (as with most things in chickens), people have whole flocks of wonderfully behaved RIR and other have just the one hen who is particularly dominant, but yes as a generalisation they can be more bossy.
As with your family I really don't think the female RIRs will attack people. They more do it to the other chickens.

 

[Nu2chooks15]

Oh it was fantastic!
Females not allowed, preposterous!?!

If you are buying just 'normal' RIR's from a 'normal' source/breeder then its most likely going to depend on the individual for temperament (however you can get breeders who will breed for less aggressive birds), but RIR's, as a breed, do tend to be a little more pushy than others. It's not necessarily them being nasty they are just more of a dominant breed. All the RIR's Ive had have always been the top hens and the one rooster I owned did attack people that didn't visit the chicken pen regularly.
Your not going to 100% get an answer (as with most things in chickens), people have whole flocks of wonderfully behaved RIR and other have just the one hen who is particularly dominant, but yes as a generalisation they can be more bossy.
As with your family I really don't think the female RIRs will attack people. They more do it to the other chickens.

Thanks Cluckcluckluke, I'll chat with our niece who's raised them and maybe change over and get more wyandotts instead, but also I can just go in there with them and check it out for myself first I guess as you say it can be individual ones being extra bossy not necessarily in general towards people (I also have to be careful as the granddaughters are 5 and 8 with the 5 year old being very petite and still quite shortish).

I appreciate everyone's responses to this question.