Australia - Six states..and that funny little island.

[Fancychooklady]

Sorry, I can only tell you how to suck eggs as you're experience with Carl has made you the subject matter expert. So here is how you suck eggs - as you have multiple birds showing symptoms (and not all are necessarily related to the same condition) the cause has to be either environment or contagion. I see Fancy has given you some advice that will go toward resolving both of those possibilities. I just want to add my weight to the antibiotics point.

Triple C can be purchased from produce stores and pet vet direct places online and in store. In Brisbane it costs between $20 and $32 for 400g depending on where you get it from. I do not know what other over the counter ones you can purchase or what type for that matter for your conditions. Triple C is broad spectrum for when definite diagnosis hasn't been made. I have been given Psittavet - Doxycycline Hydrochloride under script to treat the infections my birds have. I don't know if you can get it over the counter. The bottle says script only.

While at the vet picking it up I asked about Prazole tablets for worming. My vet doesn't like it but I only spoke to the vet nurse so I'll ask more questions of the vets if I have to pay for another consult ($120) in the future. I also asked about Moxidectin and Praziquantel the other treatments in @Fancychookladys article. Out of them and the Prazole and Levamisole it was their preference and they could get it in for me. Back to the article I thought the reference to ivemectin was interesting.

I wish you all the best and luck with your challenge.

The doxycycline is better absorbed and also dilutes better in water, but is script only. My avian vet charges $90 per consult and a tub of antibiotics is about $60 .
Lot cheaper than the equine vet. $1600 for vet check on horse just purchased and $450 for sedation removal of staples in the apsters bum and Scarlett's teeth filed back. She did leave a knockout gel for when we clip the mare though, easier than having to give injections. (We will be living on baked beans this month )
Yes get as much information from the vet as you can, I'm all ears when the vet is here, then I make notes so I can refer to them later.
There are veterinary sites on google that , while a little technical are far more beneficial reading than testimonials on blogs.

 

[Teila]

Howdy folks

You know it is not going to be a good Monday when the phone in your office starts ringing at 6am and you have 22 tickets in your Helpdesk queue about an ‘issue’. Starting work without a shower and cup of coffee is the pits! Anyways, all sorted now and back to our normal scheduled programming

The reasons are not ideal, but lots of useful information on antibiotics etc .. thanks all

Sjturner79 when you say “check the poop for information. If it is undersized ….” Do you mean undersized for what is normal for that particular chicken or can poop size be an indication in general of an issue?

OMG! That is amazing about the burning chickens and good job you spotted it .. it could have been disastrous.

lol appps I do kinda feel sorry for your chicken helper but no reason to throw in the towel and time to get right back on the horse etc

Ouch Fancy they are some serious Vet bills; hopefully the chookies will throw in a couple of eggs to go with those yummy baked beans

 

[MyHaven]

The doxycycline is better absorbed and also dilutes better in water, but is script only. My avian vet charges $90 per consult and a tub of antibiotics is about $60 .
Lot cheaper than the equine vet. $1600 for vet check on horse just purchased and $450 for sedation removal of staples in the apsters bum and Scarlett's teeth filed back. She did leave a knockout gel for when we clip the mare though, easier than having to give injections. (We will be living on baked beans this month )
Yes get as much information from the vet as you can, I'm all ears when the vet is here, then I make notes so I can refer to them later.
There are veterinary sites on google that , while a little technical are far more beneficial reading than testimonials on blogs.

What??? $60 for 450 gram? My vet charges about $120 for a consult and extra for an emergency squeeze in and I paid $105 for that sized container?

So are you saying the type of infection doesn't matter - the doxycycline is better regardless. I did notice it is easier to dissolve.

40+ years ago we called a vet to a horse. He walked around it and said "I know nothing about horses, that'll be $150 thanks".

 

[sjturner79]

Howdy folks 

 You know it is not going to be a good Monday when the phone in your office starts ringing at 6am and you have 22 tickets in your Helpdesk queue about an ‘issue’.  Starting work without a shower and cup of coffee is the pits! Anyways, all sorted now and back to our normal scheduled programming 

The reasons are not ideal, but lots of useful information on antibiotics etc .. thanks all 

Sjturner79 when you say “check the poop for information.  If it is undersized ….” Do you mean undersized for what is normal for that particular chicken or can poop size be an indication in general of an issue?

OMG! That is amazing about the burning chickens and good job you spotted it .. it could have been disastrous.  

lol appps I do kinda feel sorry for your chicken helper but no reason to throw in the towel and time to get right back on the horse etc 

Ouch Fancy they are some serious Vet bills; hopefully the chookies will throw in a couple of eggs to go with those yummy baked beans 

A bit of both. If the chickens poop get smaller it means it has a problem, but on the other hand a healthy looking chicken whose poops are small for its size will also indicate that their is a digestive problem.
I had one I thought was healthy, but actually had serious issues in the gullet, the only early indication was that she pooped really small all the time.

 

[Fancychooklady]

A bit of both. If the chickens poop get smaller it means it has a problem, but on the other hand a healthy looking chicken whose poops are small for its size will also indicate that their is a digestive problem.
I had one I thought was healthy, but actually had serious issues in the gullet, the only early indication was that she pooped really small all the time.

I can't say that I've ever heard of size being that much of a problem. Consistency , colour and texture would be a more reliable indicator. It goes without saying that all of these would be directly connected to the type and amount of food being consumed.

 

[Fancychooklady]

What??? $60 for 450 gram? My vet charges about $120 for a consult and extra for an emergency squeeze in and I paid $105 for that sized container?

So are you saying the type of infection doesn't matter - the doxycycline is better regardless. I did notice it is easier to dissolve.

40+ years ago we called a vet to a horse. He walked around it and said "I know nothing about horses, that'll be $150 thanks".

Our equine vets are pretty good, they only charge a $60 travel fee and they are 50 mins away. The QLD vet was a bit steep, but that involved 32 X-rays.
My tub of antibiotics is only 250g trimidine. They are broad spectrum so they treat both gram positive and gram negative bacteria . Oral bioavailability can vary however with chlortetracycline / triple C being the least and doxycycline being the most orally bioavailable.

 

[sjturner79]

I can't say that I've ever heard of size being that much of a problem. Consistency , colour and texture would be a more reliable indicator. It goes without saying that all of these would be directly connected to the type and amount of food being consumed.

The size was not much larger than a marble. If they are that small it's a problem.

 

[fpvbill]

Hello everyone Millmerran QLD here

 

[satay]

What??? $60 for 450 gram? My vet charges about $120 for a consult and extra for an emergency squeeze in and I paid $105 for that sized container?

So are you saying the type of infection doesn't matter - the doxycycline is better regardless. I did notice it is easier to dissolve.

40+ years ago we called a vet to a horse. He walked around it and said "I know nothing about horses, that'll be $150 thanks".

Omg $120 for a consult is really dear. I pay $60 out here and $2 a km for call out as long as it is in normal hours. Out of hours as i found out with patsy (the sheep) is a totally different kettle of fish. Xrays are so expensive i paid i think $700 ish x 2( had to have them done twice over 2 weeks) for them when they were trying to diagnose Zeus's bone cancer.

 

[Hens From Aus]

Hey Guys!
Just found this Australian thread and have spent a very long time looking over it. Heaps of great input and ideas to take on!

I've just got my first chooks last Friday. I got 2 Isa Browns (highline) and 4 silkies. We have had them confined to the coop so they get used to their surroundings and will open the door to them in the next few days. The Isa's seem to be able to go up and down the ramp of a morning and night, but the poor little silkies won't use it yet! I'm thinking tomorrow morning I won't pick them up and move them from the sleeping quarters to the coop run, and see if they can figure it out for themselves! (Or get hungry enough to figure it out!)

I built my coop and fence, and am really glad I didn't go out and purchase the first prefab coop I could find. It's been a long few months researching and building, but the wait was most definitely worth it. The chickens have more square meters in the coop and outside run then what we do in our house!

Anyway, a few pics below of the setup and I'll keep you posted with what's happening.

Thanks again, Thomas.