G'day Geoff,
The "gyspy face" terminology really describes the darkish aspects of the comb, face and wattle colour of breeds. They vary in the different breeds but in the Australorp you can see it clearly in most of the old commercial strains such as those from Barters and in those fowls in the USA. It's a dark or dirty stain and/or a black flush particularly in the face or around the eyes. The Giles, Harry & Athol, got over that issue by adding Langshan blood in the 1920s and subsequently they had a laying/commercial strain and an exhibition strain. The basis of that strain today that we see winning in the show pens is from that basic exhibition strain.
Your pullets look ok, but as you would appreciate it's very difficult to assess any fowl, professionally, without handling it. I'm not sure what lines Val Bragg used so its hard to comment. If you are serious about good show fowls, my offer of a trio at the "right price" still stands if you were to take the trip to Dubbo and go home via the Gold Coast. If you were keen to get back into showing, why not purcahse a trio off either George Norman or Brian Newell?
Some of my Langshan pullets and cockerels for this season, albiet only a very small team and late bred, are quite satisfying this year. I'll snap a few pictures this afternoon and post them.
Regards,
Ross
Thank you..I thought that was what it was..but in all these years no one was ever able to describe it to me ....
.I like the langshan info..A lot of langshan that I see have tails that look like a fireworks display..I would have to find some with a neatness to the tail..right now I have my hands full....I know everything evolves..some of the european orps very different than ours..and now australorp...The picture in american standard is much more like what our birds look like ..the description is the bird of curves curves from beak through body to tail and underneath..moderate body fluff..They wont allow us to post the standard...which as an illustration would be very helpful...but maybe somone can copy and send it to you for reference.or I will...
the standard stalled out at the turn of the century much because commercial feed lots took over an australorp class was easily in the hudreds back then..now your lucky to see 5 to 10...now there is a huge revival for heritage breeds.standard has same picture as 1911..and just saving some breeds of these from the critical list was an adventure..never mind trying to evolve..
I do think there is also a danger in evolving like dog breeds an asthetic that is appealing can be detrimental sometimes and sometimes it is just what is needed..the germans took new hampshire reds, gave them a much better tail...looks much better than the old pope noses running around..but sometimes things can crop up like skin issues or egg issues..Do you guys keep close vigle on those things? like keeping the vigor and robust health..I see where you are going with it..I like it..but I have to say..the picture of australorp in american standard makes the bird look like a living artwork..the great bird of curves..I do have to consider sub zero temps also..we tend to like a lower comb like a gentlman in a bowler..thou mine has comb bigger than I like ..the lower comb seem to go well through a new england winter..
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