Australorps breed Thread

G'day Geoff,

The "gyspy face" terminology really describes the darkish aspects of the comb, face and wattle colour of breeds. They vary in the different breeds but in the Australorp you can see it clearly in most of the old commercial strains such as those from Barters and in those fowls in the USA. It's a dark or dirty stain and/or a black flush particularly in the face or around the eyes. The Giles, Harry & Athol, got over that issue by adding Langshan blood in the 1920s and subsequently they had a laying/commercial strain and an exhibition strain. The basis of that strain today that we see winning in the show pens is from that basic exhibition strain.

Your pullets look ok, but as you would appreciate it's very difficult to assess any fowl, professionally, without handling it. I'm not sure what lines Val Bragg used so its hard to comment. If you are serious about good show fowls, my offer of a trio at the "right price" still stands if you were to take the trip to Dubbo and go home via the Gold Coast. If you were keen to get back into showing, why not purcahse a trio off either George Norman or Brian Newell?

Some of my Langshan pullets and cockerels for this season, albiet only a very small team and late bred, are quite satisfying this year. I'll snap a few pictures this afternoon and post them.

Regards,

Ross

Thank you..I thought that was what it was..but in all these years no one was ever able to describe it to me ....

.I like the langshan info..A lot of langshan that I see have tails that look like a fireworks display..I would have to find some with a neatness to the tail..right now I have my hands full....I know everything evolves..some of the european orps very different than ours..and now australorp...The picture in american standard is much more like what our birds look like ..the description is the bird of curves curves from beak through body to tail and underneath..moderate body fluff..They wont allow us to post the standard...which as an illustration would be very helpful...but maybe somone can copy and send it to you for reference.or I will...

the standard stalled out at the turn of the century much because commercial feed lots took over an australorp class was easily in the hudreds back then..now your lucky to see 5 to 10...now there is a huge revival for heritage breeds.standard has same picture as 1911..and just saving some breeds of these from the critical list was an adventure..never mind trying to evolve..

I do think there is also a danger in evolving like dog breeds an asthetic that is appealing can be detrimental sometimes and sometimes it is just what is needed..the germans took new hampshire reds, gave them a much better tail...looks much better than the old pope noses running around..but sometimes things can crop up like skin issues or egg issues..Do you guys keep close vigle on those things? like keeping the vigor and robust health..I see where you are going with it..I like it..but I have to say..the picture of australorp in american standard makes the bird look like a living artwork..the great bird of curves..I do have to consider sub zero temps also..we tend to like a lower comb like a gentlman in a bowler..thou mine has comb bigger than I like ..the lower comb seem to go well through a new england winter..
 
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Hi ross,

Was looking at your langshan pics and they are beautiful birds! I thought lanshans were to have a very pronounced "U" shape to their back lines? Im not trying to pick but your 3rd pic doesnt seem to have as much of that, is that an ausie langshan vs croad? Maybe it was just how the pic was taken, thanks!
quoting myself to apologize for going langshan on the thread. am still curious to the answer, but know this isnt really the spot...i was still wiping my eyes from waking up this morning when i wrote that.
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If Chet pops in, Have 1 ross-blue chick pipped..looks like the rest of this group going to start any min...my 3 mrs softie eggs pipped..the others arnt due till tommorrow night.
 
If Chet pops in, Have 1 ross-blue chick pipped..looks like the rest of this group going to start any min...my 3 mrs softie eggs pipped..the others arnt due till tommorrow night.
That is great news!

I will be looking forward to seeing pictures.
 
Just came in from cutting and splitting wood. Can't stand up straight but I got two pips out of the 7 splash eggs so far as I am hanging over the bator. Yahoo!!! Pics will definitely follow if I get permission from the creator, Chet Hupp. We only know of 1 real splash BA in the US.

The Tigercreek 5 will be 10 weeks on Fri and pics will follow. The only difference is they will now be known as the Tigercreek 4.
A man from "NJ" made me an offer I could not refuse! for one of my cockerels, my pick, not his. So now there are 2 cockerels and 2 pullets left to start my new line.
 
Just came in from cutting and splitting wood. Can't stand up straight but I got two pips out of the 7 splash eggs so far as I am hanging over the bator. Yahoo!!! Pics will definitely follow if I get permission from the creator, Chet Hupp. We only know of 1 real splash BA in the US.

The Tigercreek 5 will be 10 weeks on Fri and pics will follow. The only difference is they will now be known as the Tigercreek 4.
A man from "NJ" made me an offer I could not refuse! for one of my cockerels, my pick, not his. So now there are 2 cockerels and 2 pullets left to start my new line.
Kurt, Looking forward to reports and hopefully pictures!

So? is Cutting & Splittin that wood warming you twice? That's what my Dad used to always tell me
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They are taking thier sweet time.little beaks peeking out litttle peep holes.1 ross-blue 1 urch mc...3 of mine mrs softie...the rest should be right behind
 
Hi ross,

Was looking at your langshan pics and they are beautiful birds! I thought lanshans were to have a very pronounced "U" shape to their back lines? Im not trying to pick but your 3rd pic doesnt seem to have as much of that, is that an ausie langshan vs croad? Maybe it was just how the pic was taken, thanks!
G'day,

The Australian Langshan, and most Langshans, is a bird of "V" lines and certainly not "U" lines. So when you are judging or assessing a Langshan you would look at the V shaped lines within the side aspect of the fowl and the same at the front and rear. The tail should be carried at an angle of not more than 35 degrees.
That fowl in the 3rd picture is by far one of the best we have ever bred and he won 3 Bird of Shows at 3 very big shows. I'm happy with the way he is standing and later in the year we will see how his progeny go. We have some outstanding pullets from him, so I hope to do well in 2013 with them.

For Geoff: Lavendar Langshans are possibly a wishy-washy blue or even a splash gone wrong. They are quite pretty but they are not in the Standards and in show pens judges generally reject them. I have seen a few and judged them.

Regards,

Ross
 
Hope you do well in 2013..I'm sure you will..wonderful work Ross.

Kurt your going to be a force to be reckoned with in American australorp.. some of these birds that you are getting are tops
 

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