Aviary netting... need help!

[KansasKid]

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breaking strength has nothing to do with resistance to being chewed by sharp predator teeth.

Never said it did, sorry for the confusion i just posted the strength because at different strengths there different prices. My confusion here is that they plan to put it on the top and use something else for the sides and am confused on how foxes and other predators are going to chew threw it up top?

 

[KansasKid]

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[WhiteMountainsRanch]

All those are nice nets, but expensive and too big. I found a small roll at the tiny hardware store in a tiny town on the outskirts... I haven't picked it up yet, but it's like 14' x 50' or something for the like 25 bucks... have to go check it out and make sure it will work.

Thanks! Beautiful coops everyone!

 

[janastasio]

I bought mine from amazon. It is 29.95 plus $13.30 shipping for a 50x50 net. I used it to cover my outdoor pen when we started experiencing an owl or hawk attacking our ducks. My ducks have a separate in-door coop for nightime. I was very happy with the quality and for the price.

 

[magoochie]

I bought mine on Amazon.com too. also, the tighter the weave, the more expensive.

 

[greekbioguy]

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breaking strength has nothing to do with resistance to being chewed by sharp predator teeth.

Never said it did, sorry for the confusion i just posted the strength because at different strengths there different prices. My confusion here is that they plan to put it on the top and use something else for the sides and am confused on how foxes and other predators are going to chew threw it up top?

we had a misunderstanding i thought you related breaking strength to safety ,my fault . but animals do climb .i have seen rats climbing vertical walls , my cats sleep on top of my aviaries and foxes can easily climb trees and very high fences not to mention weasels and stoats that can outrun squirrels on the thinnest branches of trees. am not trying to play smart here but i think it is common sense that wild animals do try to get our pet birds . it is the responsibility of the owner to keep his/her birds safe .u can not blame predators for killing our birds ,its just what they normally do. i keep reading stories that are sad but totally avoidable ,i believe there are many people that would rather pay 500 euros for a gun or more money over the course of many years in baits and poison and are not willing to pay a fraction of that money in order to make a secure aviary. the only wild animals we can not protect our pets from is evil minded people , we can outsmart all other predators (i am sure u can built a lion proof aviary given the time and money ). poisoning ,shooting, trapping will not work unless ur aviary is safe. it is childish behaviour to try to exterminate all the wildlife around your property in order to keep your birds safe while you can think ahead and make things secure . i have done all the above in the past i baited ,trap,shoot and still kept missing birds every year once i changed my defence methods and built safe aviaries i have not lost a single bird the last 5 years . i do not mind the foxes badgers or weasels any more i can have a laugh watching their desperate attempts to get in. make your aviaries in such a way that only animals with metal tools can open them and you will enjoy your feathered friends for many years
i am not trying to persuade anyone to use strange expensive materials just ordinary building materials will do the job. cement costs around 6 euros for 50 killo bags , sand comes by the square meter cube (that's over two tonnes) and costs around 15 euros, rocks cost even less than sand for 2-3 tonnes.metal chicken wire costs around half a euro for every square meter, rabbit wire (the very strong wire you built rabbit cages with) costs around one euro for every square meter. the only ''expensive '' material is the wood for the frames . u can definitely built an all predator proof (including rats) large aviary for less than 500 euros

 

[goosedragon]

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breaking strength has nothing to do with resistance to being chewed by sharp predator teeth. plastic polypropylene and polyethylene is a piece of cake for any fox or other animals(for example rats love to eat plastic, dogs too) . no animal would try to chew metal chicken wire because it will shred its gums and mouth to pieces. i don't think that predators push nets to cheque their breaking strength unless u have strong toothless predators around

i have raised ducks and other birds as a hobby for 15 years now and i have come to the conclusion that the only safe (predator proof )materials used to built an aviary are :
brick walls
stones built
cement
and metal chicken wire
even wood is not safe (wood is softer than claws and teeth)
try to use materials harder than teeth and your ducks will be safe so u dont have to worry about their well being

I would like to introduce you to our local Racoons. They have learned to tear normal Chicken wire. It is local wisdom that chicken wire is to keep chickens in, not to keep the preditors out.

 

[Baybrio]

A few years ago I read an article by an individual that had a hawk problem. Instead of using netting over the top of his chicken area he used fishing line. His theory was that although the hawks could physically get through in places they did not attempt to because they did not want to get caught in the line. He said it ended his hawk problem.

I have no idea if that would work or not but I just thought I'd share the story.

 

[Baybrio]

And I meant to add that I've bought netting for a different purpose from The Net Shed on ebay. They sell used fishing net and have some that is very light mono-filament.

 

[WhiteMountainsRanch]

In my particular situation, I will be using the netting to keep the ducks in... not predators out. Just to reintroduce, we do not have predators, and I have LGD's in case anything comes close. I've been freeranging my birds for over 2 years and have never lost a single one.

I think the one at the hardware store will work, I just need to get a couple posts up and a gate (that's the biggest expense) then I can take pictures!