B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

OK, my new pair has finally outgrown the damage done by their previous caretaker. How do they look? I couldn't get Deb to hold still for a full-body shot, but she does have nice carriage, a brick-shaped body, and stumpy little clean legs with 5 full toes one both feet. She started laying two weeks ago, and napoleon has been crowing for about a month now.




 
Pretty birds!

Sandiklaws, please clarify: the parentage- the rooster was a straight comb and the hen was a rose comb- is that correct? Do you know if the hen was heterozygous or homozygous for this trait?
 
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NICE!
OK, my new pair has finally outgrown the damage done by their previous caretaker. How do they look? I couldn't get Deb to hold still for a full-body shot, but she does have nice carriage, a brick-shaped body, and stumpy little clean legs with 5 full toes one both feet. She started laying two weeks ago, and napoleon has been crowing for about a month now.




 
quick question regarding combs, I have 2 pullets that were sired by a straight out of rose, both are rose, bred to a straight what can I expect to see this year for combs?

You're going to see a mix. Just be ready to cull.

If you breed cross on cross, you will very likely get a high proportion of culls. It would probably run around 90% or so. If you breed your Dorking Crosses back to pure Fav's you should get a fair proportion of Salmon/Wheaton chicks.
 
OK, my new pair has finally outgrown the damage done by their previous caretaker. How do they look? I couldn't get Deb to hold still for a full-body shot, but she does have nice carriage, a brick-shaped body, and stumpy little clean legs with 5 full toes one both feet. She started laying two weeks ago, and napoleon has been crowing for about a month now.
They look good!
 
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okay, so it will be frustrating at first, but any singles that do show up will throw true. Yes.

just another dumb thing to potentially cull for, although I would be hard pressed to really cull a chick for something that superficial (and still SOP) until I get everything else close to perfect, given I am just starting. Well, if the new cockerel is homozygous for RC, this will be a two year process; if he's heterozygous, then you can fix it this year. I wouldn't think of it as dumb; rather that it is what it is. If you're going to head down the path of Coloreds, you have your culling work cut out for you, so you might as well just resign yourself to it. There are patterns that are generally stable, there are those that are very much not. If you are getting SC and RC, by culling the RC you allow for the space needed to raise a SC chick that approaches the SOP. I guess what I meant by "dumb" is that they allow both varieties by the SOP so it isn't as good a thing to cull for if I don't have the important things taken care of...body size and weight, structural defects of comb and feet, general "Dorking-ness," color. Perhaps I should pair up with someone who WANTS rose combs and just send all the rose combs to them!!! LOL

I weighed one of my SG hens and she is only 5.2 lbs at about 10 months old. At what age should they weigh what they are going to finally weigh? Well, even if she's ging to put on another pound over the next year, she's under weight. If you have other pullets from which to breed tht are securely weightier than she, than she's a cull. If this is were all of your birds are at, than choose the best two females with the best two males and begin there. You should see an improvement by the end of the year. Although if you're going to try to bring up three varieties, it's going to take a lot of hatching and a lot of raising space. Don't want to do SG's... just trying to see how far off they really were from what they should be. and start to train my eye for size. she's actually an average sized SG from my hatchery chicks! not worth doing anything but getting eggs from.

my new big boy is scared to death of me still. I will have to win him over with food before I can grab him to weigh him.
or try to be superhumanly quick...LOL Do it at night with a head light with a red light. They can't see the red light well, and it allows you to pluck them off of the roost. It also makes the whole process a little disturbing as possible which is good for the whole flock. I am really curious as to this fellow's weight. He seems big to me but how much is fluff and how much is substance I don't know. It is just too funny that he is such a big baby. the cockerel is so much more sure of himself, it is hilarious. I could actually see the cockerel defending the flock and this guy running for the hills.
 
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I'm no expert, but that Roo's silhouette is exactly what I think of when I think "dorking."
What is his size like?



OK, my new pair has finally outgrown the damage done by their previous caretaker. How do they look? I couldn't get Deb to hold still for a full-body shot, but she does have nice carriage, a brick-shaped body, and stumpy little clean legs with 5 full toes one both feet. She started laying two weeks ago, and napoleon has been crowing for about a month now.
 
We use GQF's. They are outstandingly reliable, which, admittedly, is costly. If Karen has the Hova-Bators down, it might be worth trying that route. Regardless, of the model used, I like having one for incubating and another for hatching. It gives me time nd space to insure hygiene.

Greenhorn, we just published our ordering information online for the 2013 season, but honestly, I don't think you need another order of chicks. In your stead I'd just hatch from the best few that you have. You know there's always a source here, but you have plenty of genes over there. I'd take the extra money and put it towards your incubators.

If your chicks turn out like ours did, you'll have very few culls.

When they hatch, check for comb, color and toes.

1. We'll probably seem a few color sports. In the last hatch I had one Red Pyle. You can tell because the yellow down is lightly chipmunked, but all of these are culls.

2. Combs so far this season are 100% rose comb, which leads me to believe that via strong culling our stock is, or is becoming, homozygous for rose comb.

3. Watch toes. Toe placement has been great this year, but the more you hatch, the more you increase your possibity of off polydactyly. Especially watch out for the possibility of a double toenail in the fifth toe.

I'm pretty firm about culling on this end. One only has so much space for raising up birds, every space given to a cull is one fewer available to a potential star. I look forward to seeing your results!

I purchased one of those repti pro incubators and wish we'd have just purchased a real cabinet incubator. Thinking about going with the GQF MFG Classic Sportsman Cabinet Incubator 1202A. It's a bit bigger than we need but gives us room to grow into. Kind of expensive also but I don't have much luck with the repti pro and I don't want to hassle with another inferior product. Thinking the repti pro might serve as a small hatcher until we need a bigger one.

We definitely plan on doing some culling and right from the incubator works for me. I totally agree about wasting space and resources on inferior chicks. Want to fill all 5 coops with whites (The entire new facility). Guess maybe we should just go for it but I really liked the birds we got from you and figure it wouldn't hurt to have 2 generations of your handy work. If you are going to do chicks again next year I guess we should just go for it. I've managed to keep our best white rooster and have some real nice hens too.
 
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