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[msladyhawke]

yes, i'm quoting myself... LOL rather than editing.

it should stand to reason, that breeding a normal red to a pyle, you should get 50/50...

craig is a great guy, but I wonder how firm his grasp in the genetics is, since he told me that he finally got good pyles by putting the reds and whites and pyles all in one pen last year...

Can'/don't want to really speculate on that, we'll see how I do going forward with breeding these guys and go from there. This is my first time working with pyles.

 

[ki4got]

Quote: maybe down the road i'll try to get some eggs from you and play with them to find out the genetics. 8) once I have a few more breeding and grow out pens set up that is.

 

[cukooformarans]

It may be worth trying my idea with the Horstman reds then. Even as a side project to see how it works. If it is not a big setback with color, it would probably be good for type and it would give me a way to get a little different blood in the mix. Of course I would want to get back to that beautiful color though! Wow! I still have to go back and look at those beautiful pics Msladyhawke posted!

 

[ki4got]

It may be worth trying my idea with the Horstman reds then. Even as a side project to see how it works. If it is not a big setback with color, it would probably be good for type and it would give me a way to get a little different blood in the mix. Of course I would want to get back to that beautiful color though! Wow! I still have to go back and look at those beautiful pics Msladyhawke posted!

do you have the horstman reds? I'm curious what the weights are on mature birds... I have one cockerel I got back from a feb/march hatch and 2 girls from the same lines as his sire (horstman tice). just wondering how these compare with birds direct from dick's lines.

 

[ki4got]

oh meant to mention, msladyhawke, looks like you might have the assortment I was predicting in your chicks... the darkest being red, the lighter chipmunks being pyle and the whites being... well, white. LOL

I'm curious to see how they color out, if I'm right on that.

 

[cukooformarans]

I do have the Horsemen reds, but have not weighed them. I have two groups from him, the oldest of which is probably right at one year old. I don't have my calendar to say exactly.

 

[ki4got]

I do have the Horsemen reds, but have not weighed them. I have two groups from him, the oldest of which is probably right at one year old. I don't have my calendar to say exactly.

well, if you happen to get weights, let me know please? I'd like to see how my guys compare. the cockerel I have is from a sandhill hen and the tice/horstman roo I lost, so may not be as large as I'd like, but with the 2 girls I've got with him, hopefully we'll get some good chicks.

one plan is to also put my sg roo over these girls later this year to get sg pullets to use that may have better size than I'm currently getting...

 

[cukooformarans]

Sure, I don't know when I will be able to, probably after the holidays- we haven't even had time to put a tree up yet- but I will let you know when I do! Thank you for the genetics information!

 

[cukooformarans]

So, if I breed a red Pyle with a dominant white, I would get 50% (theoretically) red Pyle heterozygous for dominant white. Breeding these together should (again theoretically) give 25% red Pyle homozygous for dominant white, 25 % heterozygous for dominant white which would be phenotypically red Pyle, and 25% regular red. This assumes the white isn't hiding other colors. Is that correct? And the only way to know which of these offspring were homozygous for the dominant white, and would therefore breed true, would be test breeding?

 

[msladyhawke]

maybe down the road i'll try to get some eggs from you and play with them to find out the genetics.  8)  once I have a few more breeding and grow out pens set up that is.

Well, let me know when you have more room...