B.Y.C. Dorking Club!

Hello! Its nice to see that there is an effort to keep the Dorking breed going. Years ago I got a Red trio from Jeannie Peters and tried to get a program going. I supplemented with some Sandhill Reds and SG. I couldn't get a program going. I didn't throw enough resources at the problem and underestimated just how many predators travel thru my place. I've lost chickens to pretty much every predator this state has except for snakes, wolves and cougars. Cougars are not good hunters of chickens, but do a good job of chasing smaller predators off! At one time I was a member of the Dorking club which seems to have become something else.

So some questions.
Just what email do I use to forward my application to the Dorking Breeders Club? It looks like there might be a different email than that posted on the site.
What is the best way of getting ahold of Rudy Troxel?

I have chicks coming from Horstman's this spring ( I hope, winter has not been kind to that part of the country). I'd really like to add another source which is why I'm trying to contact Rudy Troxel (assuming he's still breeding). At one time Craig Russell told me that Roger Tice's Red line would compliment the trio I had from Jeannie Peters. He's not breeding any longer. Any information on the person who has his breeding stock? I really would like to stay away from Sandhill. I've gone that route before and it did not help me. Instead caused me untold grief.

So I'm looking for started birds, chicks or hatching eggs of Reds. My preference is for started birds, but I can do hatching eggs. I hate hatching eggs. Rates suck and you have a tendency to hang onto birds that should be culled because its all you have. I'm in Washington state.

I have a good memory for the trio I had as a place to breed to. I think Jeannie bred for the higher weights in her birds. The Roo was 11 lbs. The hens were more moderate. She did tell me to breed for size or everything else would fall apart. She sent me birds that had type and size taken care of...it was just the fine details left. I cried the day I watched an eagle kill my rooster. Then fight over it with the turkey vultures.

Thanks in advance!

Jennifer
 
Hello! Its nice to see that there is an effort to keep the Dorking breed going. Years ago I got a Red trio from Jeannie Peters and tried to get a program going. I supplemented with some Sandhill Reds and SG. I couldn't get a program going. I didn't throw enough resources at the problem and underestimated just how many predators travel thru my place. I've lost chickens to pretty much every predator this state has except for snakes, wolves and cougars. Cougars are not good hunters of chickens, but do a good job of chasing smaller predators off! At one time I was a member of the Dorking club which seems to have become something else.

So some questions.
Just what email do I use to forward my application to the Dorking Breeders Club? It looks like there might be a different email than that posted on the site.
What is the best way of getting ahold of Rudy Troxel?

I have chicks coming from Horstman's this spring ( I hope, winter has not been kind to that part of the country). I'd really like to add another source which is why I'm trying to contact Rudy Troxel (assuming he's still breeding). At one time Craig Russell told me that Roger Tice's Red line would compliment the trio I had from Jeannie Peters. He's not breeding any longer. Any information on the person who has his breeding stock? I really would like to stay away from Sandhill. I've gone that route before and it did not help me. Instead caused me untold grief.

So I'm looking for started birds, chicks or hatching eggs of Reds. My preference is for started birds, but I can do hatching eggs. I hate hatching eggs. Rates suck and you have a tendency to hang onto birds that should be culled because its all you have. I'm in Washington state.

I have a good memory for the trio I had as a place to breed to. I think Jeannie bred for the higher weights in her birds. The Roo was 11 lbs. The hens were more moderate. She did tell me to breed for size or everything else would fall apart. She sent me birds that had type and size taken care of...it was just the fine details left. I cried the day I watched an eagle kill my rooster. Then fight over it with the turkey vultures.

Thanks in advance!

Jennifer

Hi,
The Club is just getting started again. http://dorkingbreedersclub.webs.com/
The membership form and email is on that site. You can also ask about Reds on that forum.
I would love to see any photos that you have of Peter's birds.
 
Hello! Its nice to see that there is an effort to keep the Dorking breed going. Years ago I got a Red trio from Jeannie Peters and tried to get a program going. I supplemented with some Sandhill Reds and SG. I couldn't get a program going. I didn't throw enough resources at the problem and underestimated just how many predators travel thru my place. I've lost chickens to pretty much every predator this state has except for snakes, wolves and cougars. Cougars are not good hunters of chickens, but do a good job of chasing smaller predators off! At one time I was a member of the Dorking club which seems to have become something else.

So some questions.
Just what email do I use to forward my application to the Dorking Breeders Club? It looks like there might be a different email than that posted on the site.
What is the best way of getting ahold of Rudy Troxel?

I have chicks coming from Horstman's this spring ( I hope, winter has not been kind to that part of the country). I'd really like to add another source which is why I'm trying to contact Rudy Troxel (assuming he's still breeding). At one time Craig Russell told me that Roger Tice's Red line would compliment the trio I had from Jeannie Peters. He's not breeding any longer. Any information on the person who has his breeding stock? I really would like to stay away from Sandhill. I've gone that route before and it did not help me. Instead caused me untold grief.

So I'm looking for started birds, chicks or hatching eggs of Reds. My preference is for started birds, but I can do hatching eggs. I hate hatching eggs. Rates suck and you have a tendency to hang onto birds that should be culled because its all you have. I'm in Washington state.

I have a good memory for the trio I had as a place to breed to. I think Jeannie bred for the higher weights in her birds. The Roo was 11 lbs. The hens were more moderate. She did tell me to breed for size or everything else would fall apart. She sent me birds that had type and size taken care of...it was just the fine details left. I cried the day I watched an eagle kill my rooster. Then fight over it with the turkey vultures.

Thanks in advance!

Jennifer

if you google rudy troxel his website will come up, sorry I don't have it off the top of my head... Craig Russell is still breeding, as of November when I talked to him at the show near Richmond (VA). he's such a wealth of info and a pleasure to speak with any time.

I have one of Craig's red roos, but he's got a bum foot (injury not genetic) so I may have to resort to AI with him once he's back in form this spring. (he only recently started crowing again!) I don't know if he'll be able to naturally breed, but i'm hopeful.

I also have 2 horstman/tice girls and a roo from the horstman/tice line out of a Sandhill girl who's destined for the crockpot sooner than later, unfortunately (he's trying to nail me thru the fence wire now!) I'm just hoping for a few more fertile eggs before I 'do the deed'. hopefully the horstman/tice girls will negate his aggression (not from his sire's line, he was a big baby).

I also have another Sandhill red girl (not his mother, who was slightly mental and is gone now) but she's a much lighter red and I'd like to find a darker roo to put her with than my CR roo is... but we'll see what they produce later on this year hopefully.

I've also got a contact that raised the horstman/tice birds I've had but i'm having trouble getting hold of them to see about getting some more birds later this spring...

and on another note, my one colored girl has gone broody on me! since I've got more chicks on the way next week, plus hatching all the time, I may put her to work sooner than later, if she proves to be a good mother (and since I have no colored roo). hoping my buff orp goes broody soon too. LOL she's proven to be an excellent and protective mother.
 
HI, this Rudy Troxel link https://sites.google.com/site/triangleacrespoultry/ I'm trying to contact the man that got Roger Tice's Breeding birds I have his number but he don't call me back. I will look for it. Hope to get eggs too.

The site looks like an abandoned site. The most recent date on it November 2012 saying that things will be available in 2013.

My guess is that chickens were a bust for them for some reason.

Those Google sites keep going forever.
 
I figure I need to contact Craig. He is a wealth of information. I just need to allot time! Easier to zip off an email.

There are a couple reasons why I'l like to stay away from Sandhill lines. Those birds introduced a level of crazy that didn't exist prior to them and would go broody after laying for a month. I also started to get some strange colored pullets. Not good Reds, but not clearly CD. I then got desperate and crossed my one decent rooster over some SG hens. This can work. You breed back to only the pullets of the cross. The cockerals look like poor CD. It would have worked if I could have kept the chickens out of the mouths of predators. That was a bad winter. I hate weasels. Especially the endangered ones you can't trap.

I need to get enough birds to set up a 4 pen rotation. I'd like it if I could get my stock from two different sources. I figure they are all related to some extent at this point.

Jennifer
 
Hello! Its nice to see that there is an effort to keep the Dorking breed going. Years ago I got a Red trio from Jeannie Peters and tried to get a program going. I supplemented with some Sandhill Reds and SG. I couldn't get a program going. I didn't throw enough resources at the problem and underestimated just how many predators travel thru my place. I've lost chickens to pretty much every predator this state has except for snakes, wolves and cougars.


Thanks in advance!

Jennifer
Hi, Jennifer, welcome to BYC!

As regarding predators, I recommend the old-timey "SSS" method whenever possible. (shoot, shovel and shut up.) I also have had very good results with poultry-friendly Livestock Guardian Dogs, specifically Great Pyrenees and Anatolian Shepherds.
Best wishes,
Angela
 
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rudy is also a member here on byc, and he's been online more recently than that if I remember... rtroxel I think. I know I've emailed him more recently than that even (within the last 6 months or so) so drop him an email and go from there.
 
Hello! Its nice to see that there is an effort to keep the Dorking breed going. Years ago I got a Red trio from Jeannie Peters and tried to get a program going. I supplemented with some Sandhill Reds and SG. I couldn't get a program going. I didn't throw enough resources at the problem and underestimated just how many predators travel thru my place. I've lost chickens to pretty much every predator this state has except for snakes, wolves and cougars. Cougars are not good hunters of chickens, but do a good job of chasing smaller predators off! At one time I was a member of the Dorking club which seems to have become something else.

So some questions.
Just what email do I use to forward my application to the Dorking Breeders Club? It looks like there might be a different email than that posted on the site.
What is the best way of getting ahold of Rudy Troxel?

I have chicks coming from Horstman's this spring ( I hope, winter has not been kind to that part of the country). I'd really like to add another source which is why I'm trying to contact Rudy Troxel (assuming he's still breeding). At one time Craig Russell told me that Roger Tice's Red line would compliment the trio I had from Jeannie Peters. He's not breeding any longer. Any information on the person who has his breeding stock? I really would like to stay away from Sandhill. I've gone that route before and it did not help me. Instead caused me untold grief.

So I'm looking for started birds, chicks or hatching eggs of Reds. My preference is for started birds, but I can do hatching eggs. I hate hatching eggs. Rates suck and you have a tendency to hang onto birds that should be culled because its all you have. I'm in Washington state.

I have a good memory for the trio I had as a place to breed to. I think Jeannie bred for the higher weights in her birds. The Roo was 11 lbs. The hens were more moderate. She did tell me to breed for size or everything else would fall apart. She sent me birds that had type and size taken care of...it was just the fine details left. I cried the day I watched an eagle kill my rooster. Then fight over it with the turkey vultures.

Thanks in advance!

Jennifer

I don't believe Rudy Troxel is doing Red Dorkings any more- I was in touch with him last year and within a month of when I contacted him, he had sold most of his flock to someone else and was in the process of selling the remainder... As I recall, he said he was looking to concentrate more on the colored dorkings. I never did get in touch with the person he sold to, but they may very well be willing to sell chicks or eggs from his birds. I think it was a lady in Michigan, a couple in New York, and Dick Horstman who ended up with his reds. I could pull up that email if anyone is interested, it might have contact information possibly.
 
My friend had wanted Red Dorkings and finally bought a trio from a lady that got them from Sandhill. We were told they were only 6-8 months but the rooster's spurs are over 2". We are guessing closer to 1 1/2 years. Everything seemed fine for the first 3 months. Then a hen died. No other chickens sick. She slowed eating, puffed up had a seizure and died. Then the rooster started attacking my friend. Now she is upset because she will have to put him down, leaving her with no rooster. She already has one rooster chick, 3 months and I have some of her eggs in the incubator. We tossed all of the eggs from the hens while the other was sick. I was thinking she could have one of my mixed roosters until she could raise another. But after reading these last few pages, it sounds as if the new roosters will be just as aggressive. I would appreciate advice as my friend is thinking about giving up on this breed. It has been very sad. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
 

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