Banning Kids In Restaurants...

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I agree! This thread just starts a lot issues and anger. We do not live in a perfect society. But some opinions should be just that. I feel this thread is very one sided to OP and has a lot of people angry..adding perfume smells, language, cell phones, loud converstions there are many things that upset people when they go out to dine not just children.If we ban everything that upsets us there'll be nothing left.
 
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I agree! This thread just starts a lot issues and anger. We do not live in a perfect society. But some opinions should be just that. I feel this thread is very one sided to OP and has a lot of people angry..adding perfume smells, language, cell phones, loud converstions there are many things that upset people when they go out to dine not just children.If we ban everything that upsets us there'll be nothing left.

Agree ...
 
I read this article the other day that is perfect for this conversation:

Permissive parents: Curb your bratty kids
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/07/05/granderson.bratty.kids/index.html


As for me being a parent of a 4 year old and a 2 year old. My kids get a look, a vocal warning, and if they need a 3rd they know it will be outside. Usually the look is all they need though. We have left places before, because of my kids and or other kids. I actually had to leave one place because while we were trying to eat the kid from the next table over was hitting my son in the back of the head! I said something to the other parents that they need to control their child and their response was: " we told him to stop but he is only 4 and doesn't undertand." I then told them well my son is only 3 but he understands that if her were to behave like that we would leave and he would be in trouble the whole way home. He knows that his parents wouldn't just ignore such behavior!" My husband was a bit embarrassed at me- I usually am not a rude person but these people just really got at me. We then left and the the manager of the place appologized to us. I told the manager it was not her fault, but thanks. They gave us a 15% off gift certificate.
 
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This is only true to a point. After all, it used to be true that a restaurant could refuse to serve a person because they were black, or a female alone, or Jewish, or ...

I do not appreciate ill-behaved children in a restaurant, store or anywhere. But I think banning of any population is a dangerous precedent. A manager can ask a patron to control their child since they are disturbing the other patrons, but to ban them?
 
I am not saying to physically discipline your child. That is up to the parent to decide. I was merely stating I got plenty of them. I also deserved them too, lol. I do not spank my child due to reasons I stated before. I also do not think that spanking is the magic solution to bad behavior. Spanking is just a tool to go along with many others in teaching your child to have some manors and respect for others. You also do not have to use every tool in your toolbox to complete a task either so why should spanking be the only tool a parent uses. It may never need to be used if the situation/child doesn't call for it. I do agree that discipline should be done in a privet setting. There is almost always a bathroom or a car around to use. Even if it it just to remove the child from the situation and calm them. I believe when it comes to discipline what matters is consistency. Parents give in to their children too easy these days when they don't want to deal with something. Also remember that "spanking" is a very wide term. U can "spank" someone with a ball bat and that would be abuse but to use a wooden spoon on the palm of the hand is actually recommended by many Child Behavioral Doctors.
 
If I were in the area, I'd give my business to that place. I love not having kids around who meltdown at restaurants. Hell, I recently got some coffee at a nice, quiet joint in town usually, and five minutes later a Mom brought in her pack of rug rats who instantly began causing a ruckus, and then one threw a crying fit when she wouldn't get him a brownie. So much for peace and quiet to read the newspaper.

I am also for kids free sections on airplanes and trains (well, I already buy business class tickets on trains, 95% of the time parents don't bring there kids there thank goodness). I would definitely pay more to not have a screeching baby in the row behind me.
 
What about when you go to a nice restaurant and the 4-year-old kid sitting in the booth behind you is not screaming and crying, but is continually jumping up and down in the seat, grabbing onto the back of the booth and pulling your hair. This happened to me and my husband once when we went to a nice restaurant to eat. The kid behind us was jumping up and down in the seat the entire time - I was jostled and bounced around so much that food was actually jiggled off my fork down my shirt. The parents sat there the entire time and never said a word to that child. We finally just had them put our food in a styrofoam container and took it home. Our $100 dinner didn't taste nearly as good nuked in the microwave. I was pretty mad. The more I thought about it, the madder I got, so I called the restaurant the next day and complained to the manager. His solution was that we come after 9:30PM the next time we visited that establishment so as to avoid any children. So, let's see, because some parents refuse to make an effort to make their children behave, I'm not supposed to go to a restaurant to eat unless it is after 9:30PM? Ummm, NOT !! Now days when I go to a restaurant, if the hostess tries to seat us next to a table with children we ask to be seated elsewhere.

I agree with the OP - there are some restaurants that children should not be allowed. At the very least - if a child is disruptive to other diners that family should be made to leave.
 
I would put a sign up before you walk in saying " well mannered children welcome" or something like that. Parents should use the best judgement though. If your kids are loud and can't sit still, just don't take them! Its common sense.
 
i am always ashamed by other peoples obnoxious kids. i have 2 daughters (5 and 7) i can say right now that i can take them to ANY restaurant and they will sit quietly and eat, they talk and giggle, but no yelling or screaming or running. the girls have acted like this in puplic areas since they were 3-4 years old. last week we went to olive garden while my hubby was home. and the people behind us had twins, somewhere around 8 years old and OMG the noise. walmart is bad too, the other day we we in walmart and there was a kid in the next aisle that SCREAMED for the entire time we were in the store!!

makes me not want to go in public! lol

it is possible for kids these days not to throw a fit, fight yell and scream in a public area. my girls know not to throw a fit if i say no, they know that going out to eat is a special treat. and they know if they act up, the next time we will get a sitter, and leave as soon as they misbehave.
 
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I agree! This thread just starts a lot issues and anger. We do not live in a perfect society. But some opinions should be just that. I feel this thread is very one sided to OP and has a lot of people angry..adding perfume smells, language, cell phones, loud converstions there are many things that upset people when they go out to dine not just children.If we ban everything that upsets us there'll be nothing left.

This thread just keeps getting worse. It seems as though in our society it has become the norm to critisize everyone else and/or their children for all of the ills of society and daily life. Its political correctness run amock! I am not afraid to say this, I am sure I will upset many or be banned or whatever but I can at least understand children and their behavior because they are still learning. What I dont understand are the adults who continue to say all of this mess because they dont have enough emotional control or maturity. Its easier to villify children and act like an a-hole than to be an adult and deal with circumstances that happen in life. Act like an adult and respond like an adult to situations in life instead of all of this temper tantrum stuff.
 
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