bantam araucanas, and genetics of blue wheaten?

[herechickchick]

Carla he is BEAUTIFUL!

Edited to add: Where did you get your Araucanas from?

 

[allen wranch]

Thanks, herechickchick...

Were you asking amazondoc where he/she got the Araucanas, 'cause I don't have any. I just have the one blue wheaten Ameraucana rooster. My hens are all Eastereggers.

 

[amazondoc]

Adam --

I got em from Dick (Dickerson). I've seen you two converse on some araucana forum or other. Did you get birds from him?

I took a bunch of pics today. Will post em some time tonight.

 

[herechickchick]

Not yet, I am going to get some BBR bantams later this month hopefully to start working on both the BBR and a Red Pyle color. Dick is very nice we have talked several times and he has been most helpful. I know he is showing in Ventura so I am sure that is keeping him very busy. Did you see his Marans? I have heard he some as well.

Oh sorry Carla I was asking Ione. Ione I am spelling your name right?

 

[amazondoc]

Hiya --

Yup, saw the Marans.

Had lunch a few weeks ago with some of the Marans club folks, ya shoulda been there!

Here are the pics of my new shmoos -- oh, excuse me, I mean bantam araucanas.

I sure as heck don't understand chicken colors!

You'll see that the "blue wheaten" roo doesn't look like the classic picture of a blue wheaten -- yet I am told that he has won at shows, so I dunno. He certainly does have nice earrings!

He's molting now and looks pretty rough, so take that into account. The buff roo has very nice color, I think, but obviously his comb and wattles are too big -- aside from him being clean faced.

You'll also see that the buff hen #2 has much nicer color than the other "buff" hens. Also, it's possible that I've gotten one of the buff hens mixed up with one of the blue wheaten hens, because I brought them all home in the same crate. I *think* I got them straight, but maybe not!

Here's the pics. Tell me what you think!

http://www.doberinfo.com/chickenpics/Araucanas--09-30-08/bantamaraucanas--09-30-08.html

 

[klf73]

from what I have read, blue wheatens don't have black but instead have blue where the black is on a wheaten. Any chance he is a wheaten? He is beautiful

Krista

 

[amazondoc]

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Yeah, that's what I understand about blue wheaten as well. HOWEVER, there are many different shades of blue -- and some can look nearly black. I specifically asked Dick whether he was wheaten or blue wheaten, and he said blue. I dunno one way or the other.

You can also see that his head is blonde rather than the red I expected. I dunno about that either!

I think he'll be very handsome after he gets back into shape. Thanks!

 

[herechickchick]

Buff Hen 1 definitely has some other colors going on there. Buff Hen 2 looks good. Hen 3 does not look like a blue wheaten but does appear to have some wheaten in her. Buff rooster is cute, he looks to have a little red in the shoulder but you should be able to get that out. the last 2 hens look to be some kind of wheaten and the last roo looks wheaten to. They are very cute and I am by no means an expert. Post them on the Araucana Forum and see what others think. Watch your other birds around these. The black spots on the combs and face look like fowl pox (it is transmitted by misquotes). We have it here right now and it is not serious (unless it gets in the mouth and throat) and it is like chicken pox in people, just has to run its course, but it is contagious if that is what that is. It might not be pox just keep an eye out, put some iodine on the black areas to dry them up. All in all I think you have some good starts so get to work.

Oh the roosters can be shown in an "Other Variety" that is for pure bred poultry that does not subscribe to an APA or ABA color so I am sure that is where your boy was shown.

Krista I agree I think the Roo is Wheaten and the hen is a Blue Wheaten esq so they may produce Blue Wheaten esq offspring. Ione you have some exciting work ahead of you if you are going to work on the blue wheaten color because ultimately you are after the same color patterns as Carla's rooster.

 

[amazondoc]

Thanks Adam --

And yeah, I wasn't gonna mention it

, but I think they've got fowl pox. They are quarantined well away from the other birds, so we'll see what happens!

On the blue wheaten color -- unfortunately, I'm not particularly fond of it! But I do love the little shmoos, and that's the color Dick had right now. I'm going to try to get a splash pullet from him, then maybe I can breed splash wheaten.

 

[Kev]

The blue wheatn roo does not have blue.. in fact he looks more like a regular gold duckwing. Blue wheaten IS supposed to be exactly like allen wranch's roo. Red hackles, and red "duckwing" spot on wing. It's true there's blue so dark it looks black but this guy really does not show any hint of blue imo. In any case your breeding results will eventually prove or disprove the presence of blue in him.. as in if he's bred with the blue hens, and no splashes result plus no blues when bred to the other hens.. well you will know for sure. His beak is also overgrown, needs to be trimmed pronto.

In any case, I do think gold duckwing is a very nice color, who knows maybe you will like his color quite a bit once he fully molts.. it's flashy.

In addition to comment above, buff hen 1 is a blue-something. Not a buff.. like maybe a mix of duckwing and wheaten.. she definitely has blue(the grey spots). BH2 is a buff.. it is hard to get a clean solid buff so she is pretty good- no off color in hackles, however don't know if the white frosting is desirable or not(I like it though).. BH3 is a blue-something again.. appears to be a mix of wheaten/duckwing or ?? Buff roo is buff.. blue wheaten hen 1 actually looks more like a blue duckwing hen.. BWH2 now that's looking like a wheaten hen. Mostly solid colored light body with detailing on neck and wings.. her comb is horribly crooked though. Can't tell if she has blue..

I'd be a bit suspicious of the buff rooster's comb, it is rather large.. kind of makes me wonder if it may be heterozygous for single comb, as some of the hens (the real squiggly looking ones). Too bad they were sent while having obvious pox lesions.. unfortunately, pox is transmitted by mosquitoes, so keeping them far away may not be foolproof.. and it does get shed into the ground to re-infect next mosquito season.