bantam araucanas, and genetics of blue wheaten?

[amazondoc]

Another interesting tidbit --

The owner of the browneggblueegg site -- the one who has the roo that looks like mine -- says the color is very similar to gold duckwing, but it's actually salmon -- as in salmon faverolle. He says the proof is that his chicks are patterned as the salmon faverolle chicks are, while duckwing chicks are chipmunks.

You can see pics of the salmon pattern here, both adult and chick:

http://www.feathersite.com/Poultry/CGD/Favs/BRKFaverolles.html

Notice that the salmon roo has BLACK in the muff/beard/tuft area, as my roo does -- while all the pics I can find of duckwings do NOT have black in this area.

Things that make ya go hmmmmmmmm! Whyintheheck do chicken colors have to be so danged complicated??

 

[Kev]

It only seems complicated however it's simply the same gene on a wheaten vs bbr pattern.

It seems confusing because wheaten and bbr roosters look very similar to each other, however the hens and chicks look very different. He is right, if the chick hatched with the wheaten down pattern(mostly cream colored with no or just a single stripe on back of head), it's a "salmon" but that's just a name for that gene on a wheaten pattern. This gene over a bbr pattern just is called "gold duckwing".

I know bearded bbrs have black tufts along with black muff/beards so I'm a bit lost on you saying gold duckwings not having black tufts? They do..?

 

[amazondoc]

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Okay.....so is it possible to tell the adult males apart by looking, or do you have to know what he looked like as a baby?

I know bearded bbrs have black tufts along with black muff/beards so I'm a bit lost on you saying gold duckwings not having black tufts? They do..?

Nono, I'm the one who's lost!

Last night I was looking at duckwing pics from non-bearded breeds, and there was no black around the chin/ear areas. That's all, I just confused myself!​

 

[amazondoc]

Ohhhhhhhhh, another thought!

So, if he's salmon (wheaten + whatevertheheckyoucalltheadditionalgene), then he WOULD be likely to produce blue wheaten when paired with the hens in his trio. Ah-hah!

 

[Kev]

There is supposed to be some clues to whether an adult rooster is wheaten or bbr, but seems sometimes you just can't be sure until he's bred. One hint I can recall at the moment is wheatens tend to have darkish down at the base of the feathers and bbr, white. It's not 100 consistent though.

Wheaten is dominant over bbr so yes, expect wheatens.. however as some of the hens seem to be 'mixed' so perhaps some will be bbr(chimpunk striped chicks). You also have potential to get blue salmons/blue gold duckwings.

Have been trying to remember what's the gene that makes 'em gold DW & salmons.. always forget that one lol..

 

[amazondoc]

Thanks again, Kev. This is all extremely interesting and educational.

I need books!! Where are good sources to read up on all this stuff?

 

[Kev]

No problem.

Here's a good site(not a book but it's readin'! Plus askin'! Cool!):

The Coop


Smart people there. They can answer your q plus way more. They'll learn you the symbols too! (E, Pg, Di, etc)

Helpful links thread from the Coop- many real good sites linked from it:

the Coop's Helpful Links

 

[amazondoc]

Thanks!