Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

[Debbi]

I was checking out the local Craigslist and found a link for a California hatchery I hadn't heard about. I noticed they Barnevelders and I think drop ship most of their birds.

But.... they are using MY pic of my Barnevelder momma hen and chicks

http://www.signaturepoultry.com/brown-egg-layers/


I've posted tons of pics and haven't watermarked all of them, but it would be nice if people would be polite enough not to use photos with out asking.

Sorry, not a Barnie person, but I saw the leader to this thread, and this stuff makes me mad! What they did is outright Copyright Infringement! They either need to get permission from you to post YOUR pic and/or to at least give a link to your web site if you have one. If I were you, I would call them and tell them you are not going to accept this theft of your birds' pic, and if they don't remove it, you will call the Prosecuting Attorney's office for prosecution! I'd almost bet that pic comes down in a real hurry! If not, call the PA's office and make a report! Ask them to call the offender, usually that is enough if they were too stubborn the first time! If you still have the pic in question on your computer, they can be traced via the server ID; the thief won't have this info! This kind of stuff really ticks me off, I've had it done to me more than a few times! All of mine were settled by simply writing the offender, and telling them that their theft of MY pic is against the law, please REMOVE IT! Good luck, and gorgeous birds by the way!!

 

[Tailfeathers]

Aya,
You could show them, but I believe the highest they could be placed would be BV since the color isn't recognized yet here in the US.

Trisha

The BL Barnies would be entered in the "AOV" class. "All Other Varieties". There was an excellent article in the PP a month or two about what should be entered in that class and BL Barnies would be a legit entry. Also, should there get to be enough interest in the variety to seek APA authorization, more of them SHOULD actually be shown. I can't remember all the criteria off the top of my head but I know it take 5 separate breeders who have bred the variety for 5 years each, and agreed upon Standard must be reached, and then qualifying shows must be help. At the show there must be enough cockerels, roosters, pullets, and hens (each) to meet the minimum number requirements.

Trisha, I'm glad you did contact those folks using your pictures. There has been a lot of hoopla about this on some other threads and unfortunately it is much more widespread than one might otherwise think. Much of this is seen on eBay. Some folks are just ignorant of what they're doing and mean no harm. And I mean that in a nice way. Others know full well what they're doing and intentionally wish to mislead and false advertise. I also suggest starting out with a kind "Hey, did you know that..." but if that doesn't work, I recommend a sharp rebuke and informing the guilty party that you will let everyone you can know they are a fraud. On eBay you can report those who refuse to take corrective action.

Also Trisha, thanks for the nice words about the RC Barnies. Enggass, ditto!

Now I'm gonna go down and check the incubator. Got a BIG hatch that's supposed to come off today. I don't remember if it's this thread or another that about a month ago or so was discussing power outages but I just had one. Power went out about 1800 Wednesday evening and didn't come back on until the wee hours of Thursday morning. Ugh! Sure hope it didn't harm the chicks that should be here tonight and tomorrow.

Hope ya'll have a great Memorial Day weekend. Don't forget to take a moment and remember our fallen heroes.

God Bless,

 

[AyaBlodgett]

These short cut words have me wondering. I know I am pretty new to all this, but curious and wanting to come up to speed. What do the letters bl barnies and rc barnies stand for? I'm guessing bl is for blue, but rc has me stumped! Aya

 

[pinkchick]

Bl = Blue

RC= Rosecomb

 

[pinkchick]

Debbi~

Don't linger here in the Barnie thread for too long......you will want to get some. *Insert Big Silly Grin Here*

 

[AyaBlodgett]

O! rose comb! Thanks
would you know what e^e^ means?

 

[pinkchick]

I know the "e" is referring to the primary pattern of the bird, not sure what the ^ is, but think it is being used to indicate an allele that is on the primary locus E. Different alleles on the primary E locus will restrict and allow other colors and patterns on the bird and can also change base colors like the "b" allele does for the Barnevelder.....this is a clip from tls_ranch' (Trisha) post several pages back about the genetic base of the Barnevelders:

"Barnevelders should be:
ebeb (brown based)
Pg/Pg (Concentric pencilled patterned)
Ml/Ml (Melanotic, thick lacing)
plus other possible modifiers and melanizers"

Barrnevelders..... are eb....."e" combined with the "b" means brown or brown based, "b" turns black to brown (I think, LOL!) with secondary pattern genes Pg, Ml that make the double lacing.
Now having said that I sure hope I said it correctly as to not be confusing and that if I am wrong Trisha or Andy come along and set me straight.

 

[AyaBlodgett]

Thanks, this is beginning to make a little more sense. I also looked up in the Standard of Perfection. They say the Rooster's chest should have the reddish brown with the lacing, and most of the pictures I've seen of a roo is a black chest. Someone mentioned double mating to achieve this lacing. How is that done? Or should the SOP re-evaluate for the American Barnvelder?

 

[RachaelS]

Okay here it is, my first Trisha Barnevelder

if you look at the egg down a little you can see it piped also

 

[RachaelS]

It is hatching day for my Trisha Babies. Started with 17 of Trisha eggs and 3 of my own (for my control group, will not be used for anything other than eggs or eating since). Of those 13 Trisha eggs and 3 of mine went into Lockdown, as of right now I have 4 Trisha babies out and doing well with 3 pips

. Of mine, 1 is out (has a "V"

mom must be Shaggy, while a very nice hen and good layer she is REALLY ugly) and 1 piped. Will post a pic or two

soon!!!