Barnevelder breeders lets work together and improve the breed

[bustedchicks]

Sorry forgot to upload

 

[nicalandia]

Is the brownish bird on the right a barnvelder?

which one?

Edit. ok I get it now

 

[nicalandia]

Sorry forgot to upload

the chick on the right looks more like a Welsummer, but it could also be a wildtype pet quality Barnevelder, I have seen them

 

[pysankigirl]

okay, so none of those chicks look like my barnevelder chicks. mine are a dark brown mostly.

 

[DylansMom]

okay, so none of those chicks look like my barnevelder chicks. mine are a dark brown mostly.

Mine are also mostly dark brown. Where did you get your chicks or do you have the parents yourself?

 

[bonnylass79]

okay, so none of those chicks look like my barnevelder chicks.  mine are a dark brown mostly.

Those chicks are more like examples of what a Barnie chick should not look like. They should be mostly dark brown like this.

 

[nicalandia]

Those chicks are more like examples of what a Barnie chick should not look like. They should be mostly dark brown like this.

I agree that they should be eb/eb not e+ or wheate, BUT eb and specially this brees eb/eb chick down can have different looks, some are darker than others

 

[poultch]

Quote: you can tell ewh or e+ splits in chick and in adults,. to spot wheaton in adult requires knowing what to look for.
I will agree that I cant sex my chicks at hatch by using the chest colour method, but its not because of them being het for MC1R.

 

[poultch]

I agree,


the e+ or eb/e+ pullets can be seen in the USA too(as eb/e+ or e+/e+ males should look identical to eb/eb males when adults, so one sees more e+/eb or e+/e+ females)

Marvin, your very own pic you've posted argues with this point, the male below (to me at least) is clearly wrong just look at that lower hackle and saddle

wildtype based Barnies in England

http://www.cornishsmallholder.com/

this is the kind of bird that I have had in my minds eye when I was saying many pages ago, not to focus on the chest colour of the male - look at the other parts too.

 

[poultch]

I do see green sheen especially in my darker blue males. The cockerel pictured is the darkest of 3 blues males that I kept from my first hatch this year. I culled all my blue males last year because I ended up with two " standard" Barnevelder males that were superior. One of the males I kept looks to be producing pretty good offspring over all. The oldest offspring are only 12 weeks-old, but I like what I see so far. I will take some pictures of his wings for you. I sprained my ankle really bad yesterday I am not sure I can get down to the coop today.

Trisha

thanks Trisha, no hurry with those pics, hope your ankle mends soon.
good to hear that you have a male that your hapy with his progeny.
but that green sheen blue is really interesting, not using interesting as code for 'bad', but interesting as it shows more querks of the barnevelder genotype