Barnyard Surprises

[Kiki]

Not trying to confuse you, but we are dealing with mixed breed mutts and multiple breed hatchery stock hens. The rooster was a single barred Dominique cross (F2 mix, so really unpredictable by me). That is why the hatched cockerel looked like a hen in respect to barring. Not the white-white-black coloration but the hen's white-black-black colors.

I wanted black chickens and I got a passel. Success!

If the rooster is single barred, will the chicks still be feather sexed? Depends on the hen. All I'm suggesting is the black chicks with white dots are Dominique descent. The black chicks with white eyeliner are the Australorp descent.

Aren't genetics fun!

23 Chickens. Eggshell passed yesterday. 23/40 = 57.5%
6 Quail from 15 eggs is 40%.
6 Quail = 3 yallar and 3 wild types, speaking of genetics...
2 Quail pipped for 24 hours. Didn't have time to open this morning. Will help out this afternoon. Hopeful. Shrink wrapped with all the incubator openings?

Chickens are outside in 3' of the 8' coop. All survived the night. Planning on opening up the coop to the them later. Don't want them getting lost or chilled. It's only gonna be 84°F today. Mid 75's at night. Thank goodness the humidity is above 70% or we'd be freezing.

Quail moving as soon as I can get things ordered.

I don't think any of the genetic rules so to speak work when you have mixed breeds to begin with.
I was just asking Moon because I wanted to know if I was on the right track with my guesses of how things work.

 

[RUNuts]

I don't think any of the genetic rules so to speak work when you have mixed breeds to begin with.
I was just asking Moon because I wanted to know if I was on the right track with my guesses of how things work.

And here I was worried you were trying to convince me that all the black chicks with dots on their heads were roosters! I might have a few roosters...

We are having fun playing with all the little fluffers.

 

[Kiki]

And here I was worried you were trying to convince me that all the black chicks with dots on their heads were roosters! I might have a few roosters...

We are having fun playing with all the little fluffers.

No only your yellows are boys.
For now anyways.

 

[Kiki]

Nutty I am wondering about the bigger white head spot ones though.

 

[Kiki]

Can you hurry up and figure out how to mark them all so we can keep track of them.
Please.

 

[RUNuts]

Nutty I am wondering about the bigger white head spot ones though.

Don't worry. All are going to first crow.

Have you picked yours out yet?

 

[Kiki]

Don't worry. All are going to first crow.

Have you picked yours out yet?

I'm trying to figure out which ones are girls still.

 

[RUNuts]

Can you hurry up and figure out how to mark them all so we can keep track of them.
Please.

Sure. I'm keeping them all in the coop so I don't lose any. Should be easy to keep track of.

 

[The Moonshiner]

@Texas Kiki
Genetics are genetics whether its pure birds or mixed birds. Problem with mixed birds is that a lot of times what genes they have are unknown. And the genes they have paired aren't the same.
When you have pure birds their gene pairs are the same genes so when they pass one of the two to their offspring you know it doesn't matter which one because they're both the same so you know what you're going to get. That is why pure birds breed true.
When you start mixing birds you start mixing gene pairs. Then with two different genes its always a 50/50 on which gene they'll pass on. Then when there's multiple pairs of genes in play so pass certain genes and some pass others so you start getting a lot of variety in offspring just because of the different combinations of genes the offspring can end up.
If you don't know all the genes in play it gets unknown in a hurry. When recessive genes get paired with dominate genes it gets to where you can't be sure what all is involved.
Back to my project. When the first cross is done its basically making a mixes breed as far as the color/pattern genes. If we know what genes both parents have we know what the offspring will get and have even though they're mixed now.
Then when we cross those offspring we know what genes are in play so we know what can pass forward we just don't know which birds will get what from each gene pair. That's were the varieties come in. We can break it down and know this this and this combination will give us this. Then we know what would be produced we just have to see what hatches and match them to the known choices we have.
Of course there can be recessives hiding and we can know by looking at the bird. Like the one copy of mottling being carried but not showing. To figure out if the recessive are there or not we have to test breed.
It really always comes down to knowing what genes are present and how different genes interact so you'll know what to expect and how to spot it or find it when breeding.
Are you confused yet?

 

[Kiki]

@Texas Kiki
Genetics are genetics whether its pure birds or mixed birds. Problem with mixed birds is that a lot of times what genes they have are unknown. And the genes they have paired aren't the same.
When you have pure birds their gene pairs are the same genes so when they pass one of the two to their offspring you know it doesn't matter which one because they're both the same so you know what you're going to get. That is why pure birds breed true.
When you start mixing birds you start mixing gene pairs. Then with two different genes its always a 50/50 on which gene they'll pass on. Then when there's multiple pairs of genes in play so pass certain genes and some pass others so you start getting a lot of variety in offspring just because of the different combinations of genes the offspring can end up.
If you don't know all the genes in play it gets unknown in a hurry. When recessive genes get paired with dominate genes it gets to where you can't be sure what all is involved.
Back to my project. When the first cross is done its basically making a mixes breed as far as the color/pattern genes. If we know what genes both parents have we know what the offspring will get and have even though they're mixed now.
Then when we cross those offspring we know what genes are in play so we know what can pass forward we just don't know which birds will get what from each gene pair. That's were the varieties come in. We can break it down and know this this and this combination will give us this. Then we know what would be produced we just have to see what hatches and match them to the known choices we have.
Of course there can be recessives hiding and we can know by looking at the bird. Like the one copy of mottling being carried but not showing. To figure out if the recessive are there or not we have to test breed.
It really always comes down to knowing what genes are present and how different genes interact so you'll know what to expect and how to spot it or find it when breeding.
Are you confused yet?

I am not lost.