Barring genetics

[Smileybans]

I read that barring is dominant. But I’ve been hatching what I thought were my EE cockerels chicks. The chicks even looked like EEs. But then one turned out to have frizzled feathers. The only frizzle I have is a bantam barred Cochin. If the barring is dominant how has this little chick turned out to not look at all like it’s father?

I will attach pictures of the two cockerels in question and the suspected mothers who laid the egg. The chick I do not have pictures of right now. But will get some when the red light won’t ruin it.

Fuzzy-EE Cockerel

Lil Chi-only frizzle in the flock

Potential mothers- black ones are OEs

This is not the chick but it has these same markings. This chick is a mix between Fuzzy and my RIR. She’s pictured above.

 

[Northwest_Wannabe]

Yes barring is dominant, but it looks like your guy is hetero barred!

Lets say B stands for the Barring Gene, and b stands for No Barring Gene

Your Frizzle boy would be a "Single Factor" Barred, aka has one Barring gene [B/b]

So when he's bred to a lady without any barring (such as your hens) the parents are mixing the genes of [B/b] x [b/b] making 50% of the chicks barred and 50% of the chicks not barred! Chances are if you kept breeding the frizzle to your hens you'd end up with barring, but since he's only got one barring gene it'll be less common than if he had two genes ("Double Factored")

Double Factored Barred chickens (roos only, since the genes sex linked) will have a lot more white on them, the white bars will be thicker than the black bars if I remember correctly : D

(edit: my keyboard randomly turns on Bold haha)

 

[Fallenone05]

Yes barring is dominant, but it looks like your guy is hetero barred!

Lets say stands for the Barring Gene, and stands for No Barring Gene

Your Frizzle boy would be a "Single Factor" Barred, aka has one Barring gene [B/b]

So when he's bred to a lady without any barring (such as your hens) the parents are mixing the genes of [B/b] x [b/b] making 50% of the chicks barred and 50% of the chicks not barred! Chances are if you kept breeding the frizzle to your hens you'd end up with barring, but since he's only got one barring gene it'll be less common than if he had two genes ("Double Factored")

Double Factored Barred chickens (roos only, since the genes sex linked) will have a lot more white on them, the white bars will be thicker than the black bars if I remember correctly : D

(edit: my keyboard randomly turns on Bold haha)

I think if you typed in [B*] without the asterisk it turns your words bold. It looks like your sentence is missing a word if that's what you used for your explanation.

"let's say stands for barring, while stands for no barring."

 

[FuzzyCritters]

The chick looks like it got it's fluff ruffled backwards. Frizzle chicks don't have frizzled chick down. If the father was the barred cochin, it would be black with a barring spot. Even if the cochin was split for barring (and thus didn't pass barring down to this chick), the chick would still be solid black. The easter egger is the only possible father with that coloring.

 

[Northwest_Wannabe]

I think if you typed in [B*] without the asterisk it turns your words bold. It looks like your sentence is missing a word if that's what you used for your explanation.

"let's say stands for barring, while stands for no barring."

It would appear you are right haha, it was doing this the other day when I was typing something else, I'll go fix it : D

 

[Smileybans]

Yes barring is dominant, but it looks like your guy is hetero barred!

Lets say B stands for the Barring Gene, and b stands for No Barring Gene

Your Frizzle boy would be a "Single Factor" Barred, aka has one Barring gene [B/b]

So when he's bred to a lady without any barring (such as your hens) the parents are mixing the genes of [B/b] x [b/b] making 50% of the chicks barred and 50% of the chicks not barred! Chances are if you kept breeding the frizzle to your hens you'd end up with barring, but since he's only got one barring gene it'll be less common than if he had two genes ("Double Factored")

Double Factored Barred chickens (roos only, since the genes sex linked) will have a lot more white on them, the white bars will be thicker than the black bars if I remember correctly : D

(edit: my keyboard randomly turns on Bold haha)

Okay. This makes sense. He has fathered some chicks that are all black with the white dot. Actually that’s the only way I knew they were his chicks. He’s the only barred I have in my flock and I know the white dot is a signature of barred chicks. So I was surprised when my “pure” brahma chicks came out looking like Lil Chi. This guy is very active in my flock. I wouldn’t be surprised if all the chicks I hatched were actually his. Is there any way to tell they are his when they don’t come out frizzled or barred?

 

[Smileybans]

The chick looks like it got it's fluff ruffled backwards. Frizzle chicks don't have frizzled chick down. If the father was the barred cochin, it would be black with a barring spot. Even if the cochin was split for barring (and thus didn't pass barring down to this chick), the chick would still be solid black. The easter egger is the only possible father with that coloring.

The chick pictured is the offspring of the EE. I don’t have a picture of the frizzled chick but it is definitely frizzled. It’s getting it’s wing feathers in and they don’t lay flat. The chick is also not black. It’s colored like the one pictured. That’s why I was confused.

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

The chick pictured is the offspring of the EE. I don’t have a picture of the frizzled chick but it is definitely frizzled. It’s getting it’s wing feathers in and they don’t lay flat. The chick is also not black. It’s colored like the one pictured. That’s why I was confused.

The chick looks like it got it's fluff ruffled backwards. Frizzle chicks don't have frizzled chick down. If the father was the barred cochin, it would be black with a barring spot. Even if the cochin was split for barring (and thus didn't pass barring down to this chick), the chick would still be solid black. The easter egger is the only possible father with that coloring.

Not always true. The rooster is likely a mixed color or a mixed breed since he isn’t pure for the barring gene. That means he could be impure for black, so not all of his chicks will have solid black down.

 

[Smileybans]

Not always true. The rooster is likely a mixed color or a mixed breed since he isn’t pure for the barring gene. That means he could be impure for black, so not all of his chicks will have solid black down.

I think he is mixed. I was told by the breeder that he’s a frizzled bantam barred Cochin. But his feet are not as feathered as Cochin feet are. The feathering is slight and only goes to his spur nubs. Not onto his feet. I don’t know what he would be mixed with though.

 

[RoostersAreAwesome]

I think he is mixed. I was told by the breeder that he’s a frizzled bantam barred Cochin. But his feet are not as feathered as Cochin feet are. The feathering is slight and only goes to his spur nubs. Not onto his feet. I don’t know what he would be mixed with though.

Sounds like a cochin mix, then. That explains why he’s single barred and impure for (extended) black.