Baytril for EYP (with lash egg pics) Anything else to help?

[Wyorp Rock]

Could be using a different dose, suspension, etc. etc.

 

[Ccort]

I personally would do another round of Baytril, to hopefully treat the infection that's causing this. I have a bird who's laid lash eggs twice in two years, the last time she was definitely struggling more and the antibiotics got her turned around.

How much of this baytril do you give a hen? I have baytril 10 percent and don't know who laid the lash egg so I guess treating all five. Weights are
8.5
4.5
3.9
6.7
6.8

@Wyorp Rock

 

[casportpony]

How much of this baytril do you give a hen? I have baytril 10 percent and don't know who laid the lash egg so I guess treating all five. Weights are
8.5
4.5
3.9
6.7
6.8

@Wyorp Rock

Do not treat all five! Baytril is a powerful antibiotic, and only sick birds/animals should be treated with it.

 

[kattabelly]

Do not treat all five! Baytril is a powerful antibiotic, and only sick birds/animals should be treated with it.

Not to mention there's a good reason it's banned for use in poultry. At a very minimum I'd say someone should have a proper understanding of why that is, so they can make an informed decision as to whether they're going to ignore the ban and use it anyway.

 

[casportpony]

Not to mention there's a good reason it's banned for use in poultry. At a very minimum I'd say someone should have a proper understanding of why that is, so they can make an informed decision as to whether they're going to ignore the ban and use it anyway.

The reason is listed here:

• Prohibited Drugs and the Reasons They are Prohibited
• https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/recalls-withdrawals/withdrawal-enrofloxacin-poultry

 

[kattabelly]

The reason is listed here:
Prohibited Drugs and the Reasons They are Prohibited

That's a useful starting point but I think an explanation of how antibiotic resistance actually develops and spreads would be good. I'll see if I can find a decent article when I have the time and headspace to look. A lot of people seem to think it's only an issue if they were to eat eggs or meat from the bird during or right after treatment.

 

[casportpony]

10% Baytril dose is 0.0454mg per pound of weight, so at 5.5lb her dose would be 0.25mg given twice a day for 3-5 days.

That's a significant difference in dosage. Here's where I found the dosage I was going by. I'm not sure about the strength of the Baytril mentioned by Kathy, so maybe that's the difference.

Post in thread 'Possible egg bound hen' https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/possible-egg-bound-hen.1554657/post-26308702

It should *not* be given in water, it should be given at 0.068 ml per pound orally twice a day for 3-5 days.

I don't know where but I'm sure I've misunderstood something somewhere. Maybe the dosage for turkeys is different or the strength of the Baytril is different. Either way I sincerely appreciate your time and help. I am so grateful to have access to this goldmine of information and amazing folks with incredible knowledge and experience. The members and this site are such a blessing to so many, including myself Thank you

*** I bet the dosage range is the difference ***

Yes, the range given is 10-15 mg/kg. I use the higher dose. @Wyorp Rock's dose is 10 mg/kg.

The math is always the same:
Weight in pounds, divide by 2.2 (converts to kg), times dose (mg/kg), divide by mg/ml = the number of ml to give
or
Weight in kilograms, times dose (mg/kg), divide by mg/ml = the number of ml to give.

1 pound at 10 mg/kg = 0.045 ml orally twice a day for 3-5 days
1 pound at 15 mg/kg = 0.068 ml orally twice a day for 3-5 days

9 pounds at 10 mg/kg = 0.4 ml orally twice a day for 3-5 days
9 pounds at 15 mg/kg = 0.61 ml orally twice a day for 3-5 days

 

[Ccort]

Do not treat all five! Baytril is a powerful antibiotic, and only sick birds/animals should be treated with it.

Then what do I do because I don't know who laid it. Just gave them all a first dose of baytril.i don't know what to do

 

[rosemarythyme]

Then what do I do because I don't know who laid it. Just gave them all a first dose of baytril.i don't know what to do

Unfortunately I can only suggest you wait to determine exactly which bird needs to be treated. With salpingitis you do have some leeway as far as time. I watched my flock's behavior, tracked position of birds on roost (so I could narrow down which birds were closest to where the lash eggs were dropped), and laying history of the hens to determine which bird was the one in need of treatment.

 

[Ccort]

Unfortunately I can only suggest you wait to determine exactly which bird needs to be treated. With salpingitis you do have some leeway as far as time. I watched my flock's behavior, tracked position of birds on roost (so I could narrow down which birds were closest to where the lash eggs were dropped), and laying history of the hens to determine which bird was the one in need of treatment.

Since I've started antibiotics, should I continue for three days at this point? They've had three doses now