The Bible was actually where the base of English comes from today. It was the foundation and source of many words of the English language.
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I enjoyed looking up the word "religion" in the dictionary.
I have also enjoyed reading books by Norman Geisler. Try http://www.amazon.com/Unshakable-Fo...310737&sr=1-1&keywords=unshakable+foundations
and http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Have-Eno...ds=i+don't+have+enough+faith+to+be+an+atheist
My point of view after reading the books above, science and logic point to the existence of God.
If you have read books outside the Bible that pointed you toward a better understanding of the Bible please let me know.
I believe that God in His infinite wisdom created all things with age.....He did not create Adam as an infant boy but as a full grown man, same with Eve and all the plants and animals so it stands to reason that carbon dating etc does not work. I also believe that it takes much more faith to believe in evolution than in creation. To believe that an ape became a man and some did not in my simple mind does not make sense. God's word is not going to be accepted by all till they are in need of prayer. Non believers will ask for prayer when they are pushed up against that wall of pain because the soul will cry out, always.
Romans 1:8-9
8..First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.
9..For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers
Romans 1:8-9
8..First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, that your faith is spoken of throughout the whole world.
9..For God is my witness, whom I serve with my spirit in the gospel of his Son, that without ceasing I make mention of you always in my prayers
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I agree, Adam was created as an adult, the Earth and the universe were also created with age.
We look at language as a clue to intelligence, look at the incredible complexity of the DNA language using only four letters.
The complete book of Isaiah was found in The Dead Sea Scrolls in Cave #4, Isaiah wrote the book about 600 BC and the scroll was dated by scientists as 150 BC. God knows the future and had Isaiah write about Jesus
Isaiah 53
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
1.Who has believed our message?
And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot,
And like a root out of parched ground;
He has no stately form or majesty
That we should look upon Him,
Nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him.
3 He was despised and forsaken of men,
A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief;
And like one from whom men hide their face
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
4 Surely our griefs He Himself bore,
And our sorrows He carried;
Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.
6 All of us like sheep have gone astray,
Each of us has turned to his own way;
But the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all
To fall on Him.
7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He did not open His mouth;
Like a lamb that is led to slaughter,
And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers,
So He did not open His mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment He was taken away;
And as for His generation, who considered
That He was cut off out of the land of the living
For the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due?
9 His grave was assigned with wicked men,
Yet He was with a rich man in His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was there any deceit in His mouth.
10 But the Lord was pleased
To crush Him, putting Him to grief;
If He would render Himself as a guilt offering,
He will see His offspring,
He will prolong His days,
And the good pleasure of the Lord will prosper in His hand.
11 As a result of the anguish of His soul,
He will see it and be satisfied;
By His knowledge the Righteous One,
My Servant, will justify the many,
As He will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great,
And He will divide the booty with the strong;
Because He poured out Himself to death,
And was numbered with the transgressors;
Yet He Himself bore the sin of many,
And interceded for the transgressors.
We look at language as a clue to intelligence, look at the incredible complexity of the DNA language using only four letters.
The complete book of Isaiah was found in The Dead Sea Scrolls in Cave #4, Isaiah wrote the book about 600 BC and the scroll was dated by scientists as 150 BC. God knows the future and had Isaiah write about Jesus
Isaiah 53
New American Standard Bible (NASB)
1.Who has believed our message?
And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot,
And like a root out of parched ground;
He has no stately form or majesty
That we should look upon Him,
Nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him.
3 He was despised and forsaken of men,
A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief;
And like one from whom men hide their face
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
4 Surely our griefs He Himself bore,
And our sorrows He carried;
Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.
6 All of us like sheep have gone astray,
Each of us has turned to his own way;
But the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all
To fall on Him.
7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He did not open His mouth;
Like a lamb that is led to slaughter,
And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers,
So He did not open His mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment He was taken away;
And as for His generation, who considered
That He was cut off out of the land of the living
For the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due?
9 His grave was assigned with wicked men,
Yet He was with a rich man in His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was there any deceit in His mouth.
10 But the Lord was pleased
To crush Him, putting Him to grief;
If He would render Himself as a guilt offering,
He will see His offspring,
He will prolong His days,
And the good pleasure of the Lord will prosper in His hand.
11 As a result of the anguish of His soul,
He will see it and be satisfied;
By His knowledge the Righteous One,
My Servant, will justify the many,
As He will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great,
And He will divide the booty with the strong;
Because He poured out Himself to death,
And was numbered with the transgressors;
Yet He Himself bore the sin of many,
And interceded for the transgressors.
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Of course not, you make partake in whatever you want. Such is the joy of living in a free country. I choose, however, not to partake in religion or Christianity. I believe it is restricting and narrow minded. The industrial and scientific revolution never would have happened if people hadn't taken a step back from the Church and questioned its values. If it wasn't for the people who stopped blindly following a book and a man in a fancy robe, we would still be living in little huts believing that the earth is flat and that we are the centre of the universe.
Of course not, you make partake in whatever you want. Such is the joy of living in a free country. I choose, however, not to partake in religion or Christianity. I believe it is restricting and narrow minded. The industrial and scientific revolution never would have happened if people hadn't taken a step back from the Church and questioned its values. If it wasn't for the people who stopped blindly following a book and a man in a fancy robe, we would still be living in little huts believing that the earth is flat and that we are the centre of the universe.
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