Black Copper Marans discussion thread

[FireTigeris]

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Pinkish/white feet pads (nearly my flesh color)

Eyes changing color by the day- currently coppery (same color as the feather almost exactly) originally greyish-green.

Ok, he's runty... and still has no amount of tail ... and no saddle- I wonder if he's split front to back gynomorph ??? he really has a hen tail...

Oh, he isn't crowing yet either, I swear I got him at the Jan 2nd chicken stock in Lake City...

(remember there is a much larger roo in there with him)

How odd, if you look back at the other picts he really does have a hen-tail...

 

[VillageChicken]

Math - I agree - he definitely has the look and stance of a hard-feathered game type.

I had a Bresse cockerel that I swore was a hen - you couldn't tell because they are pure white, but a couple weeks ago I noticed some saddle feathers. His hatchmate is full on huge combed rooster at 4 months, while this strange "capon" has hen sized comb/wattles and a very horizontal hen-like stance. And it's a total wimp, and acts like a hen. I think something is wrong with its hormone levels - got it in a meat pen, and going to check out the "beans" later at slaughter to see if they're normal. Bresse are supposed to be laying at 16 weeks, so this one is defintely an anomaly. Not a trace of roo-ness in sight, just the saddle feathers and craaazy long roo legs.

 

[math ace]

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Pinkish/white feet pads (nearly my flesh color)

GOOD! This is SOP. The picture made them look yellowish which would be bad.


Eyes changing color by the day- currently coppery (same color as the feather almost exactly) originally greyish-green.
GOOD! The pumpkin orange copper color is SOP


Ok, he's runty... and still has no amount of tail ... and no saddle- I wonder if he's split front to back gynomorph ??? he really has a hen tail...
Oh, he isn't crowing yet either, I swear I got him at the Jan 2nd chicken stock in Lake City...
(remember there is a much larger roo in there with him)
How odd, if you look back at the other picts he really does have a hen-tail...
The hen-tail carriage may be the result of him submitting to the much larger alpha roo. You would hide your sex too under the same conditions

The BCM roos should have a SHORT tail any ways. . . If he was in an environment where he was the only male, you may see him carry the tail higher

NOT CROWING is a wonderful thing. My 3 1/2 month cockerels just started crowing in the last couple of weeks. . . . so around 3 months. The stupid chick in the house has been crowing since 2 1/2 WEEEKS! Yours may not do a lot of crowing with alpha roo breathing now his neck. He may have to wait until he gets a little bigger before he starts telling the world how manly he is

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His size or "runtness" does not bother me so much as the shape of his chest. He should be filling in a lot over the next two months. It will be interesting to see how the chest forms over the next month or two. . . . Keep us updated. You picked him up in January . . . so he has to be at least 4 months old. Did you take any pics when you first brought him home ? ?

 

[math ace]

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Thanks VC! I get real nervous if I see something odd like that and no one has commented on it. . . .
I am not that confident on my owm powers of observation and surely don't want to tell somebody something that is off base.

 

[math ace]

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FireTigeris . ... . .LOOK carefully. Does he had no saddle feathers or does he not have a copper colored saddle?
He looks to be dark and might be growing in a black saddle ( or mostly black).

 

[math ace]

6 Month photo study updates . .. pink, blue, yellow band - - cockerel

AGE 3 1/2 months old

These photos were taken at 9 weeks of age. ...

Here he is at 1 month . . .

At 10 days old

 

[math ace]

6 Month photo study updates . .. pink and blue band - - cockerel

AGE 3 1/2 months old

9 Weeks old

Same cockerel - - - at 1 month of age .. .

At 10 days old

 

[math ace]

6 Month photo study updates . .. pink and white band - - cockerel

AGE 3 1/2 months old

At 9 weeks of age

Same little guy at 1 month of age

At 10 days old

 

[math ace]

6 Month photo study updates . .. pink blue and orange band - - pulletl

AGE 3 1/2 months old

Clearly, the lighting is effected these pictures. . . I will try to get some better pictures for color evaluations . . .
I just went outside to let them out of the coop and she is as black as the no band pullet pictured in the following post.

9 weeks old

Here she is at 1 month old

At 10 days old

 

[math ace]

6 Month photo study updates . .. no band - - pulletl

AGE 3 1/2 months old

AT 9 weeks

Here is a better view of her side

Here SHE is at one month

At 10 days old