Black Copper Marans discussion thread

[bamachicks8]

my maran next to rsl

 

[TylerandMary]

I forgot to reply! Very beautiful!!

 

[BCMaraniac]

Hi Folks

 

[lovingchicks]

Well 3 pretty little pullet eggs today; so excited they are laying. Now just waiting for them to lay big girl eggs so I can decide who to breed from. The pic is pretty close to real color.

How old are the hens that laid these?

 

[Wynette]

That is called rudimentary toe. They are common in breeds with feathered legs like Marans. It is not a DQ or a fault. I personally don't like to breed them, got to be genetic too. I would not cull a great roo if that was his only flaw.

Are you sure about that? I can't imagine it's not a fault, but I'm not a judge, either.

Well 3 pretty little pullet eggs today; so excited they are laying. Now just waiting for them to lay big girl eggs so I can decide who to breed from. The pic is pretty close to real color.

First off, those eggs look huge to be pullet eggs! THey have a nice sheen on them, which sometimes is difficult to find in this breed; however, these 3 particular eggs are not dark enough to be considered Marans eggs. I mean no disrespect, but I would not breed forward from these eggs. They need to be at least a 4 on the Marans Egg Color chart in order to be considered a Marans. However, crossing the hens to a cockerel or cock bird that came from a very dark egg would darken up the eggs of the offspring. Again, I mean no disrepect, and the eggs are lovely as they sit in your hand!

 

[snowbird]

Hi Wynette, The APA has a write-up on the Rudimentary toe saying it should not be penalized. Two dozen of the BC eggs we just bought have the short and I myself will not under any circumstances use them as breeders.

 

[Wynette]

Hi Wynette, The APA has a write-up on the Rudimentary toe saying it should not be penalized. Two dozen of the BC eggs we just bought have the short and I myself will not under any circumstances use them as breeders.

Hi, Don - the post was "had a nice black copper marans, but he was missing some toes"

Per Walt:

fowlman01
Today at 4:01 pm
Missing part of a toe is a 1 point deduction for each toe.


I agree with you, Don, I wouldn't use it, either.

 

[Wynette]

I had a nice BCM but he was missing some toes. another one from the same hatch just never grew. I let the guy who I got them know about this and he is going to make it right. I got the chicks at a day old. gave the missing toe rooster away as a pet and the unthrifty chick just died.

tell the person what happened ... worth a try.

Delta, true - and most breeders want to know the good AND the bad in their stock. If they don't want to know...run the other way.

 

[fowlman01]

Hi Wynette, The APA has a write-up on the Rudimentary toe saying it should not be penalized. Two dozen of the BC eggs we just bought have the short and I myself will not under any circumstances use them as breeders.

That is correct, but if it is any other toe it is a one point deduction per toe. It will not be a good thing in a show though even though it says not to descriminate. I don't know why it is even allowed. That was not put in on my watch.

Walt

 

[fowlman01]

Hi, Don - the post was "had a nice black copper marans, but he was missing some toes"

Per Walt:

fowlman01
Today at 4:01 pm
Missing part of a toe is a 1 point deduction for each toe.


I agree with you, Don, I wouldn't use it, either.

I couldn't PM you fast enough. See above. That's what I get for using my memory and not looking something up. It is only allowed on the outer toe's though. One on each side.

w.