Black Copper Marans discussion thread

[Wickischickies]

everyone else in my flock has a redish orange color including her parents. Where did the yellowish color come from I wonder

I never noticed her eyes were different than the rest of the flock. I checked her chicks from last month. A couple have black, the rest have the redish orange. I have no clue what color the eye were of her grandparents, I got her parents from two different breeders.

 

[DMRippy]

Bay is a combined set of colors, not a color per-se.

Bay is usually a red body with black points. Even this is not a good description because the shade of 'red' in the body can vary widely.

I think the word bay is used here to indicate a dark orange brown.

I have never heard that term used for chicken to describe body colors. I have on horses not chickens.
That it name used in the standard this is bay

 

[desertmarcy]

lol, it's not her normal look, her feathers are standing up, wings slighly out from the body and raised a bit, tail raised and head lowered, it's her attack stance because I pulled her from the nest.

I did just check her feet... she bites! Her feet are the same color as her legs. Her eyes are a yellow, I never noticed. Most of my flock as redish eyes except her (I don't know what you mean by bay). Her chicks that I hatched out has black eyes (its a month old) will that change and how did I get black? The rooster she is with has gray legs and gray feet but he is more black than copper and he has redish eyes. My other rooster has better color but he pulls out his leg feathers and has since he was a chick. I've tried putting oil on them so he'd quit pulling them out among other things I've tired, but nothing I do is helping. I'm at a loss on why he pulls out his feathers (on his legs and around his neck), I thought mites which everything I've tried should have killed them. I'm hoping next year his looks will improve and I can use him again. He is my favorite out of the two roosters. he was attacked by the neighbor's cat last fall and lost the tips of his comb in the attack. They are slowly coming back, darn cat.

Thank you for the tips DMRippy

The chicks will always hatch out with dark eyes and they slowly turn color as they mature. Some change faster than others and some never develop the right color eye. That is one of the things to cull for.

 

[huntseat]

I have never heard that term used for chicken to describe body colors. I have on horses not chickens.
That it name used in the standard this is bay

Oh, I'm not arguing what the words in the SOP are but instead showing that they aren't descriptive words. Descriptive words leave much less room for interpretation.

Any wonder why people think that judges get it wrong so often? LOL!

I find many times the wide variety of interpretation is exactly what the breed organization wants, so the judges can pick what they find they like and not an exact cookie cutter formula. So you will find people that follow judges they like around and show to them.

 

[Wickischickies]

This is what most of my hens look like, very little color or no color. This lady is the mom of the one pictured above. She is broody (if she only knew they were golf balls).

Thank you both for the help! The rest of my flock has eyes like this picture except the yellowish eyed one pictured in the post asking about her and her black eyed chicks. I'll have to see what color the eyes of her chicks turn out to be. oh well she will be moved to the other coop once/if her eggs hatch so I don't put her eggs in the bator again. The other coop is the mixed coop with a few different breeds and my rejected FBCM, no eggs get hatched from that coop. I've watched for the right color for legs, feet, eggs, and been picky about the feathered feet, but I didn't check eye color when picking up chicks two years ago or in my own chicks. The rejected FBCM was rejected because the leg feathers weren't as thick as I wanted so their eggs get ate rather than hatched. I learn something new everyday.

 

[DMRippy]

Thank you both for the help! The rest of my flock has eyes like that picture except the one pictured above and her black eyed chicks. I'll have to see what color the eyes of her chicks turn out to be. oh well she will be moved to the other coop once/if her eggs hatch so I don't put her eggs in the bator again. The other coop is the mixed coop with a few different breeds and my rejected FBCM, no eggs get hatched from that coop. I've watched for the right color for legs, feet, eggs, and been picky about the feathered feet, but I didn't check eye color when picking up chicks two years ago or in my own chicks. The rejected FBCM was rejected because the leg feathers weren't as thick as I wanted so their eggs get ate rather than hatched. I learn something new everyday.

Eye color can be corrected if all else is good and you don't have anything else to work with. Breed her to a roo with the right color and cull from there. You said the bottom of her feet are the same color.... they should be white. I feel like there might be some yellow there so you might want to look again. Yellow is a CULL for sure.

 

[Wickischickies]

Eye color can be corrected if all else is good and you don't have anything else to work with. Breed her to a roo with the right color and cull from there. You said the bottom of her feet are the same color.... they should be white. I feel like there might be some yellow there so you might want to look again. Yellow is a CULL for sure.

This is the bottom of their feet, everyone has this light gray color. My son says they look white not light gray. One of us might be a little color blind

This is my rooster's feet ^^


That broody hen is really mad now! These are her feet. Sorry about the muddy feet, we were hit with tons of rain yesterday.

 

[DMRippy]

Quote: Let me clarify something first. Skin of chickens comes in White, Yellow and Black. If there are others someone chime in. What I was looking for was the big cull point of yellow.... they are not yellow. They are White...... we are talking chicken terms and not color swatches.....

They may be visually light gray in person but it is still white skin. Y'all figure it out on the dishes now LOL.

 

[Wickischickies]

lol, He won

Guess I'm doing dishes

 

[desertmarcy]

Let me clarify something first. Skin of chickens comes in White, Yellow and Black. If there are others someone chime in. What I was looking for was the big cull point of yellow.... they are not yellow. They are White...... we are talking chicken terms and not color swatches.....

They may be visually light gray in person but it is still white skin. Y'all figure it out on the dishes now LOL.

According to the SOP, bottoms of feet are "pinkish white", a small distinction, but none the less. And that is what I see on those feet. Maybe she'll stop being broody now