Black Copper Marans discussion thread

[snowbird]

Wynette , I believe that we can use any of the color variations from the BC when trying to breed a better bird. I have never seen any proven results where a person has done the test breeding to show that we can only use certain individuals for breeding. I have used the Straw and copper and mahogany in different test matings and found none of the results we have heard of on line. Really the only way we can know for sure is do the test matings with records to back up the results.

 

[Arielle]

Quote: Don, I was trying to better understand the actual color of straw, black copper and mahogany. Hence my queasion which prompted all this.

Mahogany can also be found in Blues as well. Here is Myron, again, look at the saddle feathers for more correct coloring. Note the black ear tufts on him as well.

In other words, this is good or ideal saddle coloring? It looks as dark or darker than the hackles, perhaps the sunlight is making the hackle color look lighter than the saddle color.

 

[snowbird]

Arielle, You are a farm Girl so picture what wheat straw looks like for the straw color.

 

[Arielle]

Arielle, You are a farm Girl so picture what wheat straw looks like for the straw color.

HAaahaa, the straw color was the first color I did understand!!! LOL

It was the black copper and mahogany that I needed an example of. I was worried that some of my boys were mahogany, but with everyone's help and Debbi posting pics, I think many are in the middle at black copper. Yeah!

Now if any one can clarify the coloring in Debs bird, per my question in post 4692 . . . .

 

[BarnGoddess01]

I have never worried about color on the breeder females in BC as I am a firm believer that the male has more to do with color.

Interesting, Don. The wee, tiny amount of Marans breeding I have done - I believe the cock is throwing colour, the copper on females in particular.

 

[snowbird]

Interesting, Don. The wee, tiny amount of Marans breeding I have done - I believe the cock is throwing colour, the copper on females in particular.

Barb, we are in complete agreement on this. Computer is messing up with the internet but will respond more later.

 

[Debbi]

HAaahaa, the straw color was the first color I did understand!!! LOL

It was the black copper and mahogany that I needed an example of. I was worried that some of my boys were mahogany, but with everyone's help and Debbi posting pics, I think many are in the middle at black copper. Yeah!

Now if any one can clarify the coloring in Debs bird, per my question in post 4692 . . . .

Melissa,

In each of the pics I posted, I said to look at the saddle color for a more accurate mahogany coloring. The lighting can make the hackles look brighter and less dark, the true color throughout lies in looking at the saddle feathers. Just think of some women that dye their hair that deep, almost purple colored red, and that is mahogany!

Now as for the straw, out here the two kinds can look much different. Think of a pale yellow/brown straw color for the term "straw colored".

 

[Arielle]

Quote: Sorry, I don't always understand the first time. Phrased a different way and I get it. SO the saddle area in the photo was true mahogany colored. It is a very dark color. ANd pretty.

 

[Debbi]

Yes, the lighting makes the hackles look lighter, but both Clyde and Myron (the blue) have the exact same color throughout. The higher up feathers just catch the light more, and make them look lighter. Mahogany = deep brownish / red. Then there are the two tone hackles, which represent a Wheaten influence. We are talking copper and a very yellow / gold color within the hackles. While it is expected in the Wheaten roos, it is not desirable in the BCM. I tried to post a pic of this today with no luck, so just look at some of the roos Randy posted in the Wheaten thread to see what I mean.

 

[Arielle]

Yes, the lighting makes the hackles look lighter, but both Clyde and Myron (the blue) have the exact same color throughout. The higher up feathers just catch the light more, and make them look lighter. Mahogany = deep brownish / red. Then there are the two tone hackles, which represent a Wheaten influence. We are talking copper and a very yellow / gold color within the hackles. While it is expected in the Wheaten roos, it is not desirable in the BCM. I tried to post a pic of this today with no luck, so just look at some of the roos Randy posted in the Wheaten thread to see what I mean.

This is "straw"?


Will track down the WHeaten thread.